63: Nine leads and a wedding
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63: Nine leads and a wedding

Mitchell Davis:

Hey. I'm Mitchell Davis, CTO and Laravel developer.

Gavin Tye:

And recently married. I'm Gavin Tye's husband. Hello. I'm Gavin Tye's CEO, also married, and in sales and marketing.

Mitchell Davis:

Excellent. But just for those that don't know, we're married separately. No. Mate. We are into year two of running a remote startup, sixsides.co.

Mitchell Davis:

Go check it out. And we are a community building platform focused on events. We're documenting both the business and tech of our journey as we build our SaaS. How are you, mate?

Gavin Tye:

Excellent, mate. Excellent. How are you? Great to have you back. Mate, I would felt lonely, like, at the helm by myself.

Gavin Tye:

Like

Mitchell Davis:

Yes.

Gavin Tye:

It was, yeah, it was, I'm glad you had some time off and yeah. How about you, mate? Tell how's things with you? We are we deliberately have not spoken about the wedding. We've caught up twice today and we have not spoken about it at all or your honeymoon.

Gavin Tye:

So I'm looking forward to, yeah, learning about day.

Mitchell Davis:

Kept it authentic. I'm really good. I'm glad to be back. I will talk through the whole process, but yes, it's good to be back. I've been thinking over the last week or so about all the exciting stuff that we've got coming up with police games and new design for the mobile app and then like a bunch of new features that we're working on and just all this stuff.

Mitchell Davis:

And it was like, I've been obviously, I enjoyed the time away, but I've been thinking about it a lot.

Gavin Tye:

You'd want to.

Mitchell Davis:

Yeah. Yeah. But I've been thinking a lot about like, well, look and looking forward to all the new stuff that we're building here, you know, and like the the exciting time that we're going into. So Yeah. Anyway, wedding.

Mitchell Davis:

Yes. Gosh. What a wed amazing, to be clear, but, ugh, what a relief to, like, okay. It's done now. I don't have to think about that anymore.

Mitchell Davis:

It was beautiful. The day ended up being perfect for it. It was a bit

Gavin Tye:

overcast, mate. This right up your alley. Right? That's that's to God saying, this is Mitchell's this is for Mitch. Yeah.

Mitchell Davis:

That's right. I know. I felt it was amazing because I wasn't, like, all sweaty and, you know, shit as I'm standing up there. And, yeah, it was great. So that was awesome.

Mitchell Davis:

The venue looked beautiful. We had so many people come up and say, oh my god. It looks so great. And da da da. That was awesome.

Mitchell Davis:

Nicole looked beautiful as well.

Gavin Tye:

Nicole looked amazing.

Mitchell Davis:

Yeah. So it was that was great. There wasn't really anything that went wrong. Like, it was just a few few things that we would have liked slightly differently is like a bit more time with guests that everybody always wants that. Everyone that we've spoken to that's got married has said the exact same thing.

Mitchell Davis:

We still had time to mingle, but, like, Nicole kept wanting to take we had a photo booth, and she kept wanting to, like, bring me in to go take photos with whoever, you know, with cousins and whatever. And I was like, yes. This is important. We have this photo booth for the next five hours, but there's only, like, twenty minutes of cocktail hour time remaining before we can't like, it's harder when you're sitting down to have dinner. Like, it's just tricky.

Mitchell Davis:

Right? So I at one point, had to be like, look, this is it. I'll I'll take these photos with you, but there's also a 100 people here that I want to go talk to, and we've factored this into the day. She was like, yeah. Okay.

Mitchell Davis:

Alright. No worries. So we did. We took a bunch of photos, and the photo booth was awesome. Did you guys take photos?

Mitchell Davis:

No. No. No. Okay. Right.

Gavin Tye:

We didn't.

Mitchell Davis:

It was really good. It was it was fun. And then I've got now I've got, like, the a download of every photo that everyone took. There's some pretty funny ones. So Yeah.

Mitchell Davis:

But, yeah, anyway, it was that. And then the what else? In the ceremony part, we did our vows, and that was awesome. I was crying. I was a mess the whole time.

Mitchell Davis:

I couldn't couldn't help it. And that's kind of what I expected ever since growing up. I was like, I'm gonna be a fucking mess at my wedding. Yeah. And I was in a good way.

Mitchell Davis:

It was great. So, yeah, I really enjoyed that. How was that for you? Because you got to see it all.

Gavin Tye:

Yeah. It was good. Mate, there were some geese who were really trying hard to walk through your ceremony. And like and I and I was wishing them, okay, come on, just walk through. Because they wanted

Mitchell Davis:

to go up the back.

Gavin Tye:

I'm like, go through the middle, go through the middle. And it it it got so close. It got just to the back of Nicole and it goes, nah. I turned around and walked away. And I was like, damn it.

Gavin Tye:

Yeah.

Mitchell Davis:

I didn't know this was happening.

Gavin Tye:

No. No. Yeah. It was, it was happening a lot. And, there was three of them all in a row just trying to follow through.

Gavin Tye:

But yeah, it was, it was lovely. Like it was such a lovely venue and, yeah, it was really, it was fun. You know, the travel, the travel touch was great. Like the bag tags and every time the announcement was, come up, it was ding dong, like a, like a traveling.

Mitchell Davis:

Like on a plane. Yeah. Right. Yeah. That that was great.

Mitchell Davis:

So that was all our vendors made that happen, the stylists. And then, like, we had a little bit of input on it. And then the DJ, he just he was awesome. I don't know if you got a chance to chat with him or Yeah. He was, like, so proactive with everything.

Mitchell Davis:

And, yeah, he was like, oh, you guys have a playing theme. I'll do this. And then he so he showed us the little chime thing.

Gavin Tye:

Yep.

Mitchell Davis:

It's perfect. It's great.

Gavin Tye:

So He reminded me of the guy have you ever watched the old movie, the Goonies? Like I've got a booby chat. Anyway, it's a little Asian fella and he has all these little inventions and, and then he was driving with his made up car that he and I was like, you're just like a guy from Goonies. And everyone looked at me like I was an idiot. They have not heard the show.

Gavin Tye:

And I'm like,

Mitchell Davis:

oh god. I just dated. Roman circle, I guess. Yeah. Yep.

Mitchell Davis:

Yep. Someone else said he looked like Pee wee Herman.

Gavin Tye:

Asian Pee wee Herman. Yeah.

Mitchell Davis:

Yeah. He did. He was awesome.

Gavin Tye:

But, mate, it was fun. Like, I I don't dance. I was out on the dance floor cutting it up. And

Mitchell Davis:

Yes. You were. It was brilliant. I yeah. You were, like, doing the worm at points, and it was great.

Gavin Tye:

Break dancing on my back. Yeah. It was good. Yep.

Mitchell Davis:

Did Mel end up sliding on the dance floor?

Gavin Tye:

She did two of them.

Mitchell Davis:

She did. Yeah. I missed it.

Gavin Tye:

And she was like, I hope I didn't ruin my dress. She did it. So that doesn't stop her from doing it. But, yeah, that was good fun.

Mitchell Davis:

It was great.

Gavin Tye:

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Mitchell Davis:

So, it was great. The whole I had in the back of my mind of, like, just take stock through the whole time. Like, you know, stuff you'd told me about and my parents and other people had told me about as well and just try and take in each moment as it's happening. And, yeah, we did. I feel like we did.

Mitchell Davis:

I think the only other thing that we would change, we had told the DJ that, like, yeah, it's okay. If people have song requests, like, by all means, like, play them as long as they're not, you know, ridiculous. Use your own judgment. And we kind of thought that, okay, he might do, like, every fifth song might be a song request or something like that. But as soon as it opened up, we lost our playlist basically.

Mitchell Davis:

And I didn't care about that at all. But for Nicole, that was, like, more of a thing. And I'm like, yes. It's our wedding. Yeah.

Mitchell Davis:

But it's every we're two people out of the 100 people that are there. It's for everyone to enjoy and just kind of let it be what it'll be. And she was not as she was like, yeah. We should have just done no song requests.

Gavin Tye:

So But that's a nice gift to give to people. Say, thank you. By the way, here's our wedding playlist on Spotify. Open it up to people and, say, Hey, that's everyone's requests. That's a nice

Mitchell Davis:

free gift. Yeah. Yeah, sure. Yeah. I gotta think about, I'll have to think it through.

Mitchell Davis:

I don't know how we would even do that, to be honest. I don't know if he's got a record of those songs. But Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Mitchell Davis:

Anyway, it was I think those are the only two things because it was great. Like, the I was a little nervous about having photographers. So we we got we got a a package deal because we were in the Sun wedding expo middle of last year and they had some deal on. And it was only for like an extra thousand dollars on top of their base package. You could go from having one photographer and one videographer to having two of each.

Mitchell Davis:

Yeah. And we're like, oh, well, let's just do that, you know, whatever. And then this whole time in the lead up to the wedding, I was like, I feel so bougie. Like, we who are And

Gavin Tye:

look bougie. And was like cameras

Mitchell Davis:

in two my fucking people filming us all day for and two people taking photos of us. Like, we are not if we Nicole hardly even uses Instagram. I never post anything. We are not the type.

Gavin Tye:

Mate, I thought I was out of the scene of crazy rich Asians and a white guy. Yeah.

Mitchell Davis:

Exactly. And it was like, oh, why did we do this? It's so stupid. It actually ended up being great because then as we were getting ready in the lead up to the ceremony and whatever, we both of us had two sets of people and, yes, a little bit awkward with someone videoing you, but I know, like, they're not using that whole half an hour of us getting ready and posing or whatever. They're gonna use ten seconds of that chopped together.

Mitchell Davis:

So it doesn't matter. And it was just like it was great. The people that we hired, they were awesome with it. They made us feel really comfortable, and they, like, I assume the photos will turn out really well because of it. Yeah.

Mitchell Davis:

It was just like, honestly, it was it was awesome. So really good time.

Gavin Tye:

When we watched our video back, there were things in the wedding that we just didn't see, or I forgot all about. Like one of the best things was one of Mel laughing. And I was like, what's she laughing for? And it was something that I said, and I forgot that I said it. And, and then it doesn't, at the end of the day, five years from now, you won't remember any of that.

Gavin Tye:

Just remember the video that you have and it's for your kids. Right. For when they're 10 time. Yeah.

Mitchell Davis:

So that's right. Awesome. Yeah. So that was all great. And then it was awesome because we were staying on-site at the venue.

Mitchell Davis:

We had our like, our bridal party stayed with us and their partners and stuff. And so it was really just relaxing the night before we went and got went down to the shops and got stuff to make pizzas because the venue had like a wood fire pizza oven and that was awesome. And just like it felt very relaxed. Like we were there. We'd already settled in pre wedding day.

Mitchell Davis:

Nicole and I were nervous about doing the first dance, but we didn't stuff it up. We didn't there was no, like, issues. It was it was good. Oh, the bloody smoke machine that we were meant to have, it didn't didn't work in time. Yeah.

Mitchell Davis:

So the DJ was yeah. He was like, I'm so sorry. I could not get this fucking thing to work. And then later on through the night, he did the smoke machine, like, a 100 times because it was ready to go by then. But, anyway, I was like, mate, who cares?

Mitchell Davis:

It doesn't matter. It's great. Yeah. Yeah. So that was fun.

Mitchell Davis:

Yeah. The night before, though, we we practiced obviously, Nicole and I practiced our dance, but then our bridal party, they practiced their entrances and, like, came up with what they wanted to do, and that was fun. It was, it was great. Just like yeah. Just the whole thing.

Mitchell Davis:

It was just awesome. So Awesome. Yeah. Really enjoyed it.

Gavin Tye:

On a bit of a timeline because we're running out. We've got twenty five minutes to go. So let's on Friday when we do another podcast, let's talk about your honeymoon. Although I wanna know about that as well, because you went down to Tassie if that's okay.

Mitchell Davis:

Yeah. Okay. Yeah. No worries. We'll do that.

Mitchell Davis:

Cause yeah, you've you've been very busy. So, alright. Cool. Let's do that. More than happy.

Mitchell Davis:

Why don't you take over?

Gavin Tye:

So, mate, the title of our podcast today so we're not gonna talk about dev stuff. You need to get your head around everything that's going on in the business for two weeks. And, so we're gonna do a, like, a tilt towards dev stuff on Friday, but today's gonna be about, the sales machine is starting to work in the business. Like it's, I was wondering what it would be like when you you're away for two weeks on and off. You've been checking in and out, but last week you were not around.

Gavin Tye:

Mate, there's like seven leads come into the business or eight leads that have come into the business that we're now working through. If not more, there could even be nine. I just saw another one on my email that I've got a meeting next week. That's not in there. That's a nut like, there is the sales machine, the team, Chris and Ray are doing an amazing job.

Gavin Tye:

Yeah, it's been fantastic.

Mitchell Davis:

Awesome.

Gavin Tye:

Yeah. And also it's been bloody overwhelming, having, having you not here to bounce ideas off. Right. And yeah, it's been, I'm glad that we're doing this together and I've learned a big lesson. Think although we wanted to hire two people, like we do need two people in each area, I think hiring one at a time going forward and then getting used to them and then hiring another one is probably the better way to go.

Gavin Tye:

But we'll make it work, but, we're definitely on a learning curve at the moment.

Mitchell Davis:

A 100%. Yeah. So I had been thinking of you and how you're going as I've been seeing stuff come through on Slack. Like, I I still have been checking in, but I the whole plan of doing an hour a day of work, like, it just didn't happen. There was no time for it.

Mitchell Davis:

I was exhausted as well.

Gavin Tye:

Well, would you do it?

Mitchell Davis:

Yeah. Yeah. That's right. Yeah. As well.

Mitchell Davis:

Like, I, you know, I take so few working breaks that like, okay, nah, I probably owe it to myself and to Nicole of like, I'm just going to be focused.

Gavin Tye:

Let's do that. Let's do that. Whenever we have holidays, let's just account for us not being there instead of going, no, no, we'll come in an hour because we don't really, you know.

Mitchell Davis:

Yeah. You don't want to and you don't know that you can either. Like your day isn't structured when you're away on holidays and stuff. So, I I agree. I think we can try that.

Mitchell Davis:

But, anyway, it like, it had no no negative impact on me, so I'm I'm more than happy. But, yeah, it was like told the guys like, people on my team, like, hey. Leave comments for me in Linear. I'll go through and check them. I didn't open Linear, like, for a whole week.

Mitchell Davis:

Like, it's just it was too hard. You know? There's no time for it.

Gavin Tye:

Yeah. Anyway They did they did they did say in one of the meetings, oh, we're waiting for Mitch to come back. I said, he's not coming back to you.

Mitchell Davis:

Said, bring it to you guys.

Gavin Tye:

Yeah. He's not coming back. I said, he just needs his time to himself. Just let him do that. Just move on.

Gavin Tye:

Make some assumptions, whatever you do. But he's not coming back to you.

Mitchell Davis:

No. Yeah. No. It just just couldn't happen. But, anyway, I had been thinking of you with handling them as I've been seeing stuff on Slack and like just, yeah, thinking about the unique position that we're in at the moment of I'm off and I'd like, you're not gonna get me basically.

Mitchell Davis:

And then you now have four new ish people to like, it's just a lot. It was a lot.

Gavin Tye:

So Even even Mel Mel noticed it. She was like, how is it not Mitch not being here? I said, I'd need, just, I didn't need him to say yes or no. Lots of times I just need to bounce ideas off. Like even today, I've come back to you with a couple of things today.

Gavin Tye:

Yeah. But in this, I was like, yeah. Okay. Yeah. Fair enough.

Gavin Tye:

Or or you pressure test my thinking. I'll go, no. No. No. I've got resolve on this.

Gavin Tye:

Right? Yeah. Yeah. So

Mitchell Davis:

yeah. It was interesting, yeah, coming back and talking this morning and it like, immediately we think about things differently. And, like, that's good. That's healthy. Right?

Mitchell Davis:

So we find a way, and it's just all you so easy to just lock in, you know, okay. Cool. This is what we're doing. Not challenge it. And so I am glad we've got some differences of opinion on things.

Mitchell Davis:

Yep. But, yeah, I I don't envy you because next time you go on holiday, we will already have a more established team. Right? And presumably, we won't have done some hiring right before it. So, yes, it's hopefully, this is the one and only time that we put ourselves out of that type of pressure situation.

Gavin Tye:

I also think we'll be have more structure in place. Right? We're fighting up against you going away. We'll have more structure. We already have a decent structure now.

Gavin Tye:

With the team, I'm working towards a set of deliverables for each day. So we know where they sit, like what we have to produce. Because the reality is working with the team from The Philippines is that it is quite apparent that their electricity supply is, can be inconsistent. So I think Chris, for instance, he messaged me at 04:00 my time. So he must've been awake to 02:00.

Gavin Tye:

And I know Chris enough that he's not an early riser. So I won't see him again today, probably to 02:00 this afternoon. And then that throws out his whole week. Right. He needs the weekend to reset.

Gavin Tye:

So, but it doesn't matter as long as they deliver the deliverables. So, but in saying that, like the machine is working, like we've, we've given the guys a post, like a goal of delivering or developing two blog posts on six sides a week. Now we are getting quite a lot of traffic on our website, which is amazing. Like, and some of it's our target market. Yeah.

Gavin Tye:

Some of it's not, but what we need now is what you're doing. You're doing just before our call is we want to put post hoc up there to see the journey of, of the platform and see what they're doing because we can see now that people are actually looking at the, at the app designer, which is really interesting, but are they just looking at it or, or are they having a crack at designing? Right. So, yeah. And I'm actually just looking at one of the companies now.

Gavin Tye:

I'm just sending it to HubSpot done, but done.

Mitchell Davis:

Sales machine continues to work. It's fantastic.

Gavin Tye:

Yeah. The sales machine continues to work. So yeah, it's, it's great. Now also we are leveraging LinkedIn for outreach and posting, and I'm just getting some people liking my posts. Your profile is setting up meetings quite a bit like you.

Gavin Tye:

You're you're talking to people that you may not know that you're talking to.

Mitchell Davis:

The people love me. What can I say?

Gavin Tye:

They do. They They're walking thumb. Mel loved that by the way, if you heard the broadcast the other day.

Mitchell Davis:

I did. I went and listened. It was very, she had some very sweet things to say about me, but yes, the thumb thing is it continues to anyway, it was great.

Gavin Tye:

So and then now we're starting to turn on, cold email. But I've had a realization over the course of the week is what we were doing is LinkedIn as a lead generation strategy and a marketing strategy. Then we're going to do cold email now without a structure, these are just things, right? Where do they fit in the whole entire strategy? And then what I thought about as well as something wasn't making sense.

Gavin Tye:

It just some, I was missing something and essentially on what I've, what I've come down to is not everyone's in a buying cycle. Right. And we genuinely want to add value. We want to add value to the community. And that's what our whole core mission is, is to help people get extraordinary amount of value.

Gavin Tye:

And then if we can do that, then they're more likely to engage with us and want to work with us right now. What was happening is not everyone's in a buying cycle. So even if they're interested there, we could get lost. So, what I, what I think is we're a community led tool events tool. We need to build our own community.

Gavin Tye:

And if we can help people by if we're reaching out to different event, event managers or associations, they're doing some cool things. And if we can maybe shine a light on them or help them come into a community, get some ideas from other, other people doing things and make that community stronger, then when they do have a need, maybe that they will rec, they will consider us. So, and because we were posting on LinkedIn about events and all this kind of stuff, but it wasn't going nowhere. We didn't have a call to action. So if we invite them to a free community that we curate and add value to, then I think that can't be a bad thing.

Gavin Tye:

Right? Then if we play out, we go to AIM, you know, we went to AIM this year. We didn't know anybody. Right?

Mitchell Davis:

Yeah.

Gavin Tye:

We didn't know anyone. Imagine kicking the can down the road. We're lucky to have 500 people or a thousand people in the event managed in the event space. And they go to AIM. Then all of a sudden we have a community there that we can meet in person.

Gavin Tye:

Right. It's a different, but it has to start long, long, long time before.

Mitchell Davis:

And

Gavin Tye:

so I've got it all up here mapped out to show you what that looks like. And I think it makes sense here, like on how to do that. So,

Mitchell Davis:

we'll have to sit down and go through that. I've got some ideas, which we you mentioned earlier, maybe you wanna use like the school platform. That s k

Gavin Tye:

Double o l.

Mitchell Davis:

Yeah. What I'm wondering is like, ultimately, Six Eyes is going to become a community building platform. Does it make more sense to have it on Six Sites? Use that as our, like, build functionality that supports us having a community on there.

Gavin Tye:

Sure. In time. Yeah. In time.

Mitchell Davis:

Well, what I fear is if you go build it on a separate platform and then try to bring it over, you're gonna lose people. We are gonna lose people.

Gavin Tye:

Yep. But then the question is how don't we lose people? Right? We're not like, I do think we could take the best out of what they're doing and learn from it and see, like, I do think if we are, we are building this anyway, we have talked to the CCF about this and probably the world police games. I don't think it's years away.

Gavin Tye:

I think it's more likely months away. Right. So in the course of the next few months, I don't see that being as if we're going to balloon out to 10,000 people. Right. Yeah.

Gavin Tye:

Also the school platform is, is searchable. So people could find us who want to build community anyway. It's essentially they, there was a lot of people on that platform and they could find us and come into our community and essentially be a lead gen tool in itself. There is value in that. Okay.

Gavin Tye:

But yes, I do understand what you're saying. Yeah.

Mitchell Davis:

Yeah. Okay. Alright. We'll have to figure out. But, I'm very excited about like, makes total sense.

Mitchell Davis:

We should have a community of our own. Yeah. Yeah. You've already kind of done this with, the founders collective. Right?

Gavin Tye:

So Yeah. A little bit. A little bit. Like it's in its infancy. It's I just haven't so what's been missing in everything is the structure.

Gavin Tye:

Right? So what I wanna do is be able to say to the team today, well, well, Chris, you're looking after this one, Raya, you're looking after that area. And together we look after the community, then we can go where do, how many hours are we spending on that sales structure? Then how many leads and clients are we getting out? Like to make sure it doesn't make sense that we're spending a hundred hours on the sales structure, $5,000 but only getting a two thousand dollars client out of it.

Gavin Tye:

Right?

Mitchell Davis:

Sure. Yeah. So,

Gavin Tye:

if we can get it in a way that's visual and we can follow, then we can optimize and turn off, turn off levers that aren't working over time.

Mitchell Davis:

Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Well, that's exciting.

Gavin Tye:

Yeah. In saying that, like in the last couple of weeks, we've had at least, I would say it's other nine or 10 new leads come into business, which is amazing. Right? Right. So now we just gotta work through them.

Gavin Tye:

Pardon?

Mitchell Davis:

While I've been away. That's one a day while I've been away.

Gavin Tye:

That's Yeah. At least. Yeah. Yeah. It's been great.

Gavin Tye:

So.

Mitchell Davis:

Good one, mate. Well done.

Gavin Tye:

I'm glad that you'd come back and the business is in a better position than when you left. Yeah.

Mitchell Davis:

Well, me too. Yeah. It's great. I hope that I can do that somehow in the future as well.

Gavin Tye:

Mate, you just run your own race and don't try to fill my shoes. Right? You just,

Mitchell Davis:

well, I couldn't do half of what you do. I could've do anything. That could well, it's true. Yeah. No.

Mitchell Davis:

Anyway, it's all good. Mate, you got one final card on Trello here that I like the look of.

Gavin Tye:

Yeah. Yeah. Well, why don't you set the set the scene? Like, what do you like, why are we doing this? Well, first and foremost, we have trademarked or in the process of trademarking six sides, which we have not paid attention to, but it's come because of a reason.

Gavin Tye:

So and you're the one who got that answer. So why don't you fill us in on that?

Mitchell Davis:

Sure. So in Singapore, there is a company called Six Eyes, and we got an email from Google from the Play Store saying that they took our app down in Singapore because of a trademark infringement. We're like, what? What are you talking about? And we go we have a look and yeah.

Mitchell Davis:

They're what is I don't wanna bring them

Gavin Tye:

up because I No.

Mitchell Davis:

I don't wanna go look at their website because I don't really wanna

Gavin Tye:

talk design. They're an interior designer.

Mitchell Davis:

What it was. That's right. Interior design. And somehow our app conflicts with theirs in their mind at least. So, yeah, saw that, and then I fortunately, I'm not the CEO.

Mitchell Davis:

This is not really my area. So I was like, mate, what do we wanna do about this? So then you're like handle. You wanna do CEO, mate. Fuck rests with you, doesn't it?

Mitchell Davis:

Well, guess. I'll get paid

Gavin Tye:

$3. Yeah.

Mitchell Davis:

Yeah. So the your plan of action was, okay. Let's send these guys an email and just explain, like, look. We didn't even know you exist, to be honest. We're not trying to rip you off or do anything.

Mitchell Davis:

And it looks like we're competing in very different spaces.

Gavin Tye:

Mhmm.

Mitchell Davis:

Have you heard anything back?

Gavin Tye:

Nope.

Mitchell Davis:

No. That's right. So they've lodged this thing, and then they're not having a bar of it, which is

Gavin Tye:

They haven't even looked at it, to be honest.

Mitchell Davis:

Yeah. Let me just have a look

Gavin Tye:

while we're chatting.

Mitchell Davis:

Yeah. So who knows? Maybe you went to their spam. Might be worth a follow-up or something, but, the

Gavin Tye:

mate, I am offended that you tell me I should follow-up. What do you think I'd bloody be doing?

Mitchell Davis:

No. Like, maybe is there is there someone different that we could reach out to? Maybe the email address that we had is not right. You know?

Gavin Tye:

Alright. Let me have

Mitchell Davis:

a look. Alright. Well, you're on that now. But, anyway, yes, then you were like, okay. Well, what we need to do is get our own trademark as well so that we've at least got something there to fall back on and go, well, no.

Mitchell Davis:

This is who we are and what we do and our industry and all that. So it was a it was a bit of a reality check of, hey. Let's get that going as well. And yeah. So you I left that entirely with you, and you've gone and and applied now.

Gavin Tye:

Yeah. So I've gone through a like a government, it's a Australian government process. It's called, I don't know what it's called. Oh yeah. I couldn't tell you.

Gavin Tye:

It's an IP, their head start program, which is if you, if you're not very well versed in it, you just pay $400 or something. And it goes in and sees if you're eligible for it. And I was like, yeah, we are. And it's fine. So we paid the extra $2.50 to trademark it.

Gavin Tye:

So it's going through that process. I believe now we can apply for a global trademark. Well, not a global trademark, but we can select a number of other countries and then we can apply for that while this one is pending, which I have not done. So we will apply for

Mitchell Davis:

a

Gavin Tye:

Singapore one. We will do that so we can protect ourselves. And go for it.

Mitchell Davis:

Yeah. Cause it's not, it's not fair, at least the way I see it. It's like, we're not competing with you. We just so happen to have very similar names. We're in completely different industries.

Mitchell Davis:

And why should we not be able to run events in Singapore?

Gavin Tye:

It actually really scared me because what if that, those people, if I was them, I'd go and try to trademark everywhere around the world. Like, if they get ahead of us, that could be really, really damaging. So we do have to, I will do the, I think the other system is called the Madrid system.

Mitchell Davis:

Okay.

Gavin Tye:

Where you can apply while you've got ones pending in Australia. So,

Mitchell Davis:

Well, mate, good on you for being on top of it. Cause this is, yeah, the sort of stuff that just, God, I really don't like dealing with this

Gavin Tye:

sort Mate, I even tried to get Mel to do it. She goes, that's not my thing.

Mitchell Davis:

That's yours boss.

Gavin Tye:

Yep. But, but yes, we are in the process of being trademarked in Australia. So, which is great.

Mitchell Davis:

Excellent news. Well done.

Gavin Tye:

Mate, I haven't showed you, like I've created if you go and look in the general channel, I've created some backdrops for the team

Mitchell Davis:

to I saw this today. I got on a call with them and then everyone looked different. I was like, oh, what's going on in your backgrounds? Because it was on like the Google where it's just gives you like a sliver. And I had to open it up, and then I see the six sides background.

Mitchell Davis:

So we look very unprofessional. I noticed you and I don't have it on that.

Gavin Tye:

No. Well, I do, but not on this one.

Mitchell Davis:

Yeah. Oh, we're on Riverside, of course. Right. Yeah. That's right.

Mitchell Davis:

Right.

Gavin Tye:

Mate, I'm glad like we gotta have to wrap wrap it up in a minute, but I'm glad that I'm glad that you had some time away and you come back. The team has made progress. We're gonna do a major rollout in a couple of days based off what the team have done. You and Nicole had a great, wedding and, we'll learn about the honeymoon when you come back. Sure.

Gavin Tye:

Yeah. It was awesome.

Mitchell Davis:

Yeah. I'm stoked. Super exciting time and yeah, just looking forward to smashing through a bunch of things now. So it's go time. Alright.

Mitchell Davis:

Yeah. Well done, mate. Good job keeping the company running. And, yeah, we'll we'll catch up with everyone next week. In the meantime, where can people find you online?

Gavin Tye:

Mate, they can find me on LinkedIn. Right. And, soon we will be building a six sides community. So if you do want to join that community, you're going to have to come back because I don't have the details today.

Mitchell Davis:

That's right. We got to figure out where does this belong. Yep. Excellent. Alright.

Mitchell Davis:

And you can find you, mate.

Gavin Tye:

Sorry. Where can I find you, mister Married Mitchell Davis?

Mitchell Davis:

That's right. You could find me on LinkedIn under mister Married Mitchell Davis. That's right. That's my new handle. Well done.

Mitchell Davis:

Cool. Alright, mate. I'll catch you and everybody else next week.

Gavin Tye:

Awesome, mate.