Hey. I'm Mitchell Davis, a Laravel developer. I'm Gavin Tye, sales and marketing. We are building sixsides.co. It's an events platform that helps you build a stronger community through events, and this is our b to b search journey.
Mitchell Davis:How you going, mate? Good, mate. How's it going? I'm good. I'm good.
Mitchell Davis:It's been a huge week for us. We've I'm just looking back at the calendar, before we started recording here. There's a lot of stuff that's happened in the last seven days.
Gavin Tye:Yeah. There has. There has. It's, we're starting to get back into the full swing for 2026. I can't believe we're already now we're the end of, we're out there at the January.
Gavin Tye:Right? So
Mitchell Davis:Yeah. It's crazy. Anyway. So yeah. So we got lots of updates for you, this week, but we're gonna start off this episode with why we're being so transparent on the podcast.
Gavin Tye:Like we're getting into it too quick. It feels like
Mitchell Davis:we just
Gavin Tye:can't get into it.
Mitchell Davis:This will be our fair I think it's our first episode where we've just like whatever the title was, we've jumped into it within a minute. That's You don't like that?
Gavin Tye:No. There's no small talk. There's no, like, letting everyone Like, sell make themselves a coffee and then sit down and go, right. Let me consume. That felt too quick.
Gavin Tye:But I think I'm gonna change my job title. I think my job title will be meeting booking extraordinaire, because of AIM. Sure. Yeah. You are right.
Mitchell Davis:Okay. Why don't you tell us about that then?
Gavin Tye:Yeah. Well, we started, we got AIM coming up. Right. And they've got their, they've got a meeting portal where you go in and find your ideal client profile people, companies, and then try to book meetings. You are quick out of the gate.
Gavin Tye:Were like, you booked two really fast. And I'm like, it's Mitch's face. He's got the face for But that has quickly swayed back the other way over time. I'm at 11 meetings now plus two who said they would drop past. So 13 ish, 14 ish meetings.
Gavin Tye:Yeah.
Mitchell Davis:And I'm on three. Three. Yeah. In fairness, I think you have attempted way more meeting bookings than I have.
Gavin Tye:Yeah. The only difference is I didn't stop. You've stopped.
Mitchell Davis:Yeah. Well, I've been working on other things. I do have other parts of my job. This is your main thing is
Gavin Tye:is
Mitchell Davis:head meeting guy. So yes. But I did go in. I think I probably put in maybe 15 or 20 requests for meetings. Yep.
Mitchell Davis:And I'm currently sitting on three. I I had another one come through this morning. How many do you reckon you've requested?
Gavin Tye:No. Way more than that.
Mitchell Davis:Way more than that. Probably a 100 or something like that.
Gavin Tye:Maybe not. Because you can only do it on your, like availability, but yeah. At least 50 or 60. Yeah. Yeah.
Gavin Tye:Okay. I'm not shy, like, in doing that stuff. Yeah. No. It's good.
Gavin Tye:It's a bit of a dog's breakfast website, but at least it gets you to connect to people.
Mitchell Davis:So Yeah. Yeah. That's true. No. So that's been pretty cool to see.
Mitchell Davis:I'm glad that people wanna meet with you, which is great. And then, yeah, it had me like I'm like, okay. Now I gotta figure out what I'm gonna talk about when I'm there meeting with these people, but I know you'll be unless you're tied up in some other meeting, you'll be right there with me having the same conversation. So that's fine. I'll have to work.
Gavin Tye:The lady that you introduced me to up here last year, who's the events lady, she I saw her on the profile. She's she's there. You should you might wanna try to catch up with her. What was her? I can't remember her name.
Mitchell Davis:I know she runs I can find it. Red or something? Red Lanyard. Yeah. That's right.
Mitchell Davis:Yeah.
Gavin Tye:Yeah. Would reach out to her because that's what her profile is down then and to put a face
Mitchell Davis:on her.
Gavin Tye:They can shake her hand. Yeah.
Mitchell Davis:Yeah. Okay. Alright. We'll do that. Just shout out to Red Lanier, for a little bit of help as we were first getting started.
Gavin Tye:Yeah. Yeah. So did you put the banner up?
Mitchell Davis:I haven't no. I haven't yet. I was thinking about it like two nights ago. It's been such a busy week, but I will this weekend. I'll have some time.
Mitchell Davis:I'll be at home, all weekend. So I will get it set up. And then I just I'll take some photos and I'll show you. But then I just have to figure out how to wrap it back up. Cause it's never easy.
Mitchell Davis:Never as easy to put it back in the box.
Gavin Tye:Well then don't, don't, don't do it then. We're just, we're assuming
Mitchell Davis:that it's, I can. What if it's shit though? What if there's a problem with it, a tear or something? We'd look like morons. So we're probably gonna run
Gavin Tye:out of time anyway.
Mitchell Davis:Well, no, because it was it was within a week they had it delivered. Like, it was very quick. But, we're gonna have to figure out how to put it back in the box anyway after AIM. Right? It's coming back with us.
Mitchell Davis:So, yeah, I think it'll be
Gavin Tye:alright. Well, make sure
Mitchell Davis:you do
Gavin Tye:it this weekend. So if there is an issue, we can try to
Mitchell Davis:catch it. Yeah. Yeah. I wonder if you should take it back with you. So I'll bring it down.
Mitchell Davis:But you between the two of us, who's more likely to go to events? I'd say it's you.
Gavin Tye:Right. Yeah. But then I'm carrying two banners. But anyway, we'll talk about it. We'll just add that to the baggage or whatever we do.
Gavin Tye:So Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.
Mitchell Davis:We'll figure that out. But yeah. So well done and keep up the good work with the meeting bookings. It has been good. I I joked that maybe I don't even need to go because clearly the people don't wanna meet me.
Mitchell Davis:They wanna meet you. So I'm just trying
Gavin Tye:more mate. That's all. Yeah.
Mitchell Davis:But then I would miss out on our, on our walking and biking plan.
Gavin Tye:Oh, we gotta book that today. We gotta book, the bike. We should book the bike today.
Mitchell Davis:Yeah. Okay. All right.
Gavin Tye:We should. I was also thinking I've got lights for my bike. We'll get you some lights too, because I'm pretty sure if Melbourne's dark in the morning, we wanna have lights on the bike. So, okay. And we'll just do that.
Gavin Tye:I'll even bring you just a little bit of cool weather gear, like some gloves, just in case it's a bit cold. Okay.
Mitchell Davis:But yeah, cool. Thanks. Well, the only gloves I have is like snow gloves. So yeah. Yeah.
Mitchell Davis:Yeah. We don't need that. Yeah. Don't need gloves. Yeah.
Gavin Tye:It is absolutely too much.
Mitchell Davis:Yep. Snow gloves in Southern. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, we'll see.
Mitchell Davis:I like the cold though. So I look forward to Melbourne. So yeah.
Gavin Tye:Yeah. That would be good. I'm looking forward to it. I'm really looking forward to this. We're not gonna talk about what you've been working on this week, but we're really excited to present this to the people at AIM because, you had a breakthrough in functionality.
Gavin Tye:I know this is frustrating for people listening, but it's to do with AI, but it's a breakthrough in it and what we are doing. And it's, prob a proper game changer we think. And from what we can see, no one's doing it. So, yeah, my whole messaging has changed around getting people to come to us, come to our stand just to show them what we're doing. And everyone's like, yep, we'll be there.
Gavin Tye:So yeah,
Mitchell Davis:that's working then. Yeah. I'll have to copy your script and get some meetings booked for myself as well.
Gavin Tye:Mate, I just think in all honestly, just use your own voice in your own head and to say, hi, Mitch, don't try to be me, just be yourself. Then it can't be any worse.
Mitchell Davis:You said this the other day. So like, I need to find my own voice. What's that? I have my own voice. Like, I didn't understand what you meant with that.
Gavin Tye:So most people try like I, when I say find my own voice, you just gotta find what works for you and works for your personality because the how you message someone from there should be an extension of what you talk about. Right? Like, and so I always try to have a conversation in my head and then get that down on, on something like on email or whatever. Like most of my emails are kind of around how I would speak to someone anyway. And it could be nothing, but my opinion of that is, is people read that to themselves in their head.
Gavin Tye:And if it sounds more conversational instead of formal, then they're more likely.
Mitchell Davis:Right. Okay.
Gavin Tye:So you get to take it
Mitchell Davis:easy. Yeah.
Gavin Tye:Yeah. Yeah. So you're I
Mitchell Davis:guess the only reason I bring it up is of like, well, what are you saying? Because clearly it's it's currently working.
Gavin Tye:Right?
Mitchell Davis:Like, and so this whole reason we're spending all this money to go here is so that we can book meetings.
Gavin Tye:If you
Mitchell Davis:have something that's working, I'm not asking you to write my emails that I send out to any you know, that we reply to any customers or whatever. Like, I know how to I know that. That's fine.
Gavin Tye:Yeah. Well, I'll send you what I'm working on, but if I was in your position, would be saying, Hey, I'm the CTO and the technical co founder, and I've been working on some really cool shit with AI to do X, Y, and Z. And I would love, like, I'm pretty sure this is a game changer, but if you've got time, I'd love to show you and get your opinion because I don't want to build this in isolation. I want to make sure it's, it works for the public or works for our clients. Just something like that.
Gavin Tye:And they're like, oh shit. Yeah. Okay. I'll go and help that kid out. You know, you're not a kid anymore, but you know what I mean?
Mitchell Davis:Definitely. Yeah. Okay.
Gavin Tye:That's, that's where, cause I use we in that sense, cause it's not me. And you use I because you're the one building it.
Mitchell Davis:Right. Right. Okay. Yeah. Okay.
Mitchell Davis:Well, we'll see. We'll figure it out. Okay. Are we ready now to talk about why we're being so transparent or do you want to keep pushing it back? I think we've done a bit
Gavin Tye:of fluffing. So, yeah.
Mitchell Davis:Mate, why are we being so transparent? And let's define where specifically we're talking about. It's on the podcast.
Gavin Tye:Right? Well, let's let's let's, like why this topic we're thinking about it right is, we're taking a little bit of a, I don't know if it's a risk, but we've definitely made a decision back when we started this podcast to be more transparent than not about what we're doing inside the business. Now, I guess there's pros and cons to both sides of this is one is we're being honest and open in what we're doing and the hurdles we come up against in the current state of the business. Now, if a customer wanted to do their due diligence on us, could that be an issue? You know, maybe we should be perceiving ourselves to be big when we're really small, or when you're larger, you wanna make yourself more nimble than normal.
Gavin Tye:Like it's a Sun Tzu art of war strategy. But I think there's merit in being transparent. Think being honest about where you are and not pulling a wool over anyone's eyes. I think it has real merit in today's world where Instagram and all that kind of stuff, people are just putting on fake facades. And I'm just using Instagram as a, as an example there, but sure.
Mitchell Davis:Like posting on Twitter and stuff about your MRR and not talking about like why and how you got there. I call that.
Gavin Tye:Yeah. I closed a $100,000 in blah, blah, blah, blah, two, thirty days. To me, if I'm one of those clients, those people that bought that in that I'm part of that $100,000, I feel like I'm like, I feel like I would be scammed a little bit. Like, so I just think there's merit. And when everyone's trying to be fat, maybe not necessarily honest, I'm not going to be fake, but we're pumping up their results.
Gavin Tye:I really think there's, it really sits. I think it sits with both of our core, traits as people is just to be honest and transparent. And that's why we decided to do this. Yeah. And, yeah.
Gavin Tye:Do I think there's a downside in it? Maybe there are some things that we won't talk about because we don't want to give our way, our potential competitive advantage or where we're like, you think in a really unique way and you have this ability to do shit like, and go, holy shit, that was amazing. And then I also think in a slightly different context too. And I think if we're too transparent in that, if people wanted to follow us, let's say we are going to be successful in a year's two years time, people would just go back and go, and they could we don't wanna give them a fucking roadmap of what we're doing. Yeah.
Mitchell Davis:That's right. So there are limits to the transparency where it makes sense like commercially, but I completely agree with you. I guess honesty is in my nature. I almost never lie. That's a lie.
Mitchell Davis:Almost never. No. No. I embellish. Absolutely.
Mitchell Davis:Like for the sake of a joke, I'll like play something up or whatever, but you'll never catch me like lying about something like that matters. You know? Yeah. I get the feeling you're the same way. So yeah, I like that we, I really have enjoyed right from the start, that we are talking openly about stuff, you know, about conflicts that we've had.
Mitchell Davis:We've talked, we've only had a few, but we've talked about every single one of them on the show, you know, and like how we went about resolving it and we could just smooth all that over and go, oh, you know, people don't need to hear that. But if you're someone that's out there and you're starting a business or you've been running it for a while or you want to create one like this, I hope that this is at least useful. I'm not saying copy us, god, don't copy us. Right? But like, you know, there's some stuff here that we're doing that I think people could learn from.
Gavin Tye:I think there's, I think one of the reasons we decided to be so transparent is we believe in ourselves, not necessarily, we, I believe in six sides now I'm more and more believing in six sides, but as a startup, you never know where it's going to go. But I believe in our skillset. Right. Just cause six sides is on it in its second year. Doesn't mean that we're just starting from a standing start.
Gavin Tye:Like you've been developing for what, twenty plus years, right? Like a long And I've been doing this for a long, long time and we're bringing this skillset to the business. And, I do think that, if we didn't have that experience and if we're just starting out, right? Like, let's just say we both decided to become fitness co fitness coaches or a physiotherapist. I don't think we should have a podcast on that because we don't know too much about it.
Gavin Tye:Right. Yeah. So, but is there a downside? Like, I worry about that sometimes. Right?
Gavin Tye:I worry if we're we're too honest, but I guess for every downside, there's an upside and that we just have to accept that risk. Right?
Mitchell Davis:I think like, we probably wouldn't once we become successful in our own minds and you know, talking 6 figure ARR or more, hopefully more, then yeah, I wouldn't wanna talk about money at that point anymore. It doesn't make any sense to the learnings about money. It's probably now in the small stuff, you know, whereas I
Gavin Tye:don't agree.
Mitchell Davis:I don't
Gavin Tye:I don't agree with that necessarily. No, because I think there's a whole journey in getting to a $100,000 in revenue, but then there's also a journey of it's not, I think the money's the outcome, right? It's not the metric, but I think expanding to say a $100,000 to a million ARR to 5,000,000 ARR, that's massive transformations in the business, but it's an easy to measure milestone as such to say, I think there's a very big difference to be a million dollar business to a $5,000,000 business to a $50,000,000 business. And
Mitchell Davis:Yeah. I agree. There's value there for listeners, but do we want to then be telling our competitors what our ARR is? Like, at that point, we're on some road maps. Right now, we're probably not.
Mitchell Davis:You know?
Gavin Tye:You mean on on the radar, you mean?
Mitchell Davis:Yeah. On the sorry. On the radar. Yeah. Like, and so if we're then going and announcing like, oh, hey, you know, we're at 5,000,000 ARR and then, you know, some of our big competitors go look at that and they go, these guys are fucking piddly.
Mitchell Davis:You know? That's nothing compared to them with their 300,000,000 a year or whatever. Like, you know, I just wonder at some point we are of course, we're nowhere near this yet, but at some point I think it stops making sense to talk about money. We could still talk about what we're doing and hires that we're making and things like that. But yeah.
Mitchell Davis:Yeah. Probably wouldn't publish numbers at that point. Maybe. Anyway,
Gavin Tye:we're a long when we get to it. Right?
Mitchell Davis:We're a long way away from that. Yeah. Hopefully not. So Hopefully not, mate.
Gavin Tye:Yeah. So I guess that was just reiterating, like, why we're being so transparent and Yeah. It does make me worry sometimes, but yeah, I don't know. Does it make you worry?
Mitchell Davis:Not at this stage. I think we should be I would like to be more out there, more trying to get attention for ourselves. This is kind of the that's the line I've been taking with you for a while now and you, which is fine, have been pushing back and going, no, I kind of like, we're not ready yet to be on anyone's radar. Like, we we are still small and I think like, well, there's I want to stop being small. I wanna get out there.
Mitchell Davis:Yep. But you are cautioning us and I accept that. Like, so there will come a time when I know that has to change and we have to go gung ho and Yeah. Get up on product hand and get in the newspaper and whatever, like, you know, all the marketing stuff, we have to do all of that. That's still all to come, but we're, we're not ready for that yet.
Mitchell Davis:But,
Gavin Tye:well, AIM is our first foray into doing that. Like, that's it. We're going out into the world and, meeting all these people. I And still think we're building out the infrastructure. Like we can't, we can't take on 10 new clients a month, like a month.
Gavin Tye:Right. Where we're still figuring out that out. I think we're fucking close.
Mitchell Davis:Yeah. And that might be about to change with what we're doing.
Gavin Tye:Yep. Then we just gotta build out the operational structure, I think. On actually, how do we get people from like inbound into revenue, which we don't have. And yeah, I think we're close. But this year, I'm really like, I'm really looking forward to seeing how this year plays out.
Gavin Tye:Right? Yeah. Really looking forward
Mitchell Davis:to it. Especially now. Yep. It's very exciting. Anyway.
Mitchell Davis:Okay. Well, that probably covers the topic. So couple updates for you all. We had a few meetings this week. So, we have a new client that we are basically, they're doing like a free trial with us.
Mitchell Davis:Right? That's probably the easiest way to put it. Yeah. So they've got an event next week at the time of this recording. And we had a call with them this morning, and I didn't realize it was coming up so soon.
Mitchell Davis:So I was caught off guard a little. So, anyway, I've got a little bit of work to do. You wanna give
Gavin Tye:them a code name? I said you don't wanna give them a you don't wanna give code names?
Mitchell Davis:No. Not really. Because I think code names should just be for, like, very sensitive topics. So I think after we run this event next week, let's just give them a name. Right?
Mitchell Davis:Like, whether they choose to go with us or not. But, I got a very good feeling on the
Gavin Tye:But this is a different this is a different thing that we're talking to them about. Like everyone else up until last year has been, event based pricing. We are talking about an ongoing community building pricing, which is ongoing SaaS. Right? So we're just running a trial for two, two small luncheons, which is they do it in that industry.
Gavin Tye:They do a lot of them. But we're actually talking to them about ongoing. So we're gonna give them pricing based on their community while I'm waiting for them to give us some pricing on that, which is a change in our, our, our pricing strategy. Right. Which is, which is really exciting for us, which is, yeah, which I'm really excited about.
Gavin Tye:We just need to make sure we manage our expectation on how they use the app at this small luncheon. Right. Cause it's we've and I would have gone down the path if we didn't do the founders collective of getting them to enroll and tag you're it, but they we just read we just know there's not enough time in the event for people to do this.
Mitchell Davis:That's right. So meetups, think and this is kind of in the same realm as a meetup. You know, it's a hundred, two hundred people. It's a big ass meetup, but it's still only gonna run for two hours, you know, or something like that. Yeah.
Mitchell Davis:It's not enough time for people to get value out of doing points and taking photos together. They can still take photos. We can still do the facial recognition on them, but that shouldn't be the focus. It's not enough time. It's I think tag only works over the course of at least like an eight hour day or maybe a multi day event.
Gavin Tye:Yeah. So yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Now the other way, which we haven't got to yet, there was just stacking up on development is if people don't enroll in tag on it, but they do upload the official photographer photos.
Gavin Tye:Yeah. The only way that they can get photos for themselves is they're tagged. No, not even if they're tagged in it. Right. But they, we can't select the photos if they can't go in and go, oh, that's a great one.
Gavin Tye:I'll, I'll select that and create a recap. That's still, we still have that Still
Mitchell Davis:not there yet. Yeah. Yeah. That's right. So there's gonna be a bunch of stuff that comes through from AIM, comes through after AIM, I should say.
Mitchell Davis:Yeah. Because that is the main focus now. We're down to less than two weeks. It's a week and a half, you know. Yep.
Mitchell Davis:So, I am now focusing as much time as possible on this new direction that we're going Yep. For AIM. But, yeah, after we come back, I think there's then a lot more stuff for us to get through.
Gavin Tye:Right? Have you have you tried to run that through cursor as an idea to do it and see what they come up with? No.
Mitchell Davis:Like, or whatever it is. Yeah. Yeah. I haven't yet. So I that kinda leads into we had a conversation with Harely, Harely Chirr of Bussable.
Mitchell Davis:He's been on the show before, and he's kind of a a recurring friend of the show. We reached out to him because we were having who have we got on the website at the moment? Leadfeeder. Yep. Yeah.
Mitchell Davis:We've got Leadfeeder on the website, which is like this tool that it's an analytics tool that helps figure out like which companies have visited your website. And we had a look and like, we know we're not getting a tonne of traffic, but it just had us feeling like, okay, is something wrong with the site? What's going on? So we knew that Harely and Bussable have like an awesome analytics setup because he's kind of showed us that in parts before. And we wanted to see like where that's at on his side of things so he could give us some guidance.
Mitchell Davis:And so we did. He showed us that he's using Posthog and he's got it connected with his HubSpot as well. So it was really powerful, like the automations and the analytics that he's got on there. It's like very impressive. So shout out to Herrilee.
Mitchell Davis:And that then got us thinking about AI because they're quite AI forward, that possible. We talked about this, I think on the episode that he was on. And I asked him about using multiple agents because it's the, it's something that I've like at the same time, it's something that I've been working on just this week of like, how does it, how does it feel for me as the actual human in their controlling multiple of these agents working on different features at the same time? Yep. And I had been kind of nervous about it because it
Gavin Tye:can
Mitchell Davis:be hard enough to just pay attention to one thing that it's doing. Right? And I'm a pretty notoriously bad multitasker. So then to go from one to two or three different things at a time, I find that quite challenging. Yep.
Mitchell Davis:So I I tried it this week prior to the call with her earlier. I sat down on Wednesday and I had it work on the ability to create events via our API and the, something related to the lead sponsor capture stuff, that that I was working on for AING. Had it work on both of those plus then this secret of the third thing that we won't talk about today, but it's what we are going to show at AIM. And had it work on all three of those at once, and it was actually pretty good. I enjoyed having it do it.
Mitchell Davis:I just had to focus on one of them at a time because it would go like make some changes and then it might ask me, hey, do I have permission to run some tool or whatever? And so I could set them all up pretty quickly and just go, hey, this is what I want you to build. Go do it. And then I would come back and look at it, you know, five, ten minutes later. So it was actually okay.
Mitchell Davis:So I think I will continue to use that into the future, but just not for absolutely everything. Like, it's just, if I have multiple things I can work on then and I've got like the mental capacity to handle it, then I can't I can there's something that I can do now, but I won't have
Gavin Tye:to do
Mitchell Davis:it all the time.
Gavin Tye:Would you, you know, when we did, the screenshots or the where we did the, thing for project rendezvous, you know, the translation stuff. Yeah. If when, when we, when we did say, look at, look at how it's changed design of the app and look at, brought it up and the new color schemes, would it be something that you would have in the background for more longer term? Hey, go through to all our pages and refresh it to, and you would just let it in the background for a couple of hours while you're working on other things. Would you, Is it That's
Mitchell Davis:the thing. It's these AI this is where I don't understand how other people are using so many of these agents at the same time. Maybe we just have a really simple app, but, like, in some ways we do, but it's more than just like a crud app. Like, it's more than just a little nothing. You can do a lot of stuff.
Mitchell Davis:It just smashes through things in like two minutes. There's no time to go work on something else, like, or open up a different editor or whatever. Like, it's just does stuff really quick, which is great. But then I don't understand how other people are like having things running. Yeah.
Mitchell Davis:I've heard of like, okay. You have these things called Ralph loops and it's like, oh, listen. We don't have to get into it on here, but like it just it'll keep iterating on itself for hours until it finally says like, yep. I'm done. And all the stuff I'm writing is just like finishing it in in a couple minutes, you know?
Mitchell Davis:So then I look at that and now if I was trying to have multiple of these running all the time, like, I'd just constantly be coming up with the next task for it to do because it's happening so quick. It's almost like there's not much efficiency gained by having multiple. However, with that being said, the third and secret project that I worked on did require it to do a lot more, probably took it about half an hour to an hour. So I dealt with the first one and two projects because it was asking me a lot more staff and it was coming back pretty quickly. But the third one just kind of hummed along for an hour.
Mitchell Davis:And then I came back to it and had a look and was like, holy shit. And this is when I then had to give you a call to go through like, I think this is a bit of a game changer for us. So that just ran largely on its own for about an hour or so. Yep. So but maybe it's like per task that you give it depends on how simple it is.
Mitchell Davis:Because I would love for it to sit in the background and sure, take a couple hours to go through and restyle our whole app because I think like the new screens that we just generated not too long ago for project rendezvous look great compared to what we currently have.
Gavin Tye:Yeah. Yeah. I do.
Mitchell Davis:Something for us to look at.
Gavin Tye:And also, I guess you don't, you're not dealing with legacy code, right? You're not dealing with a big database So of if it's going to go back through and do some stuff there or clean up.
Mitchell Davis:Yeah. It's a fairly new app. Yeah.
Gavin Tye:That's right. But maybe like it's those bigger things where we're talking about dashboards, it can go through and actually build out a set of dashboards like aligned with X, Y, and Z. It might take a few hours then come back and at least, or test you getting it to test something just to see what it would look like, something that you know that you might not use, but if or go and investigate something like what we did today. Right? Like you wouldn't you may not have stumbled across that if you didn't run that third the different
Mitchell Davis:other agent. Right? So Yeah. Yeah. So anyway, it's all good.
Mitchell Davis:Harely, final point, gave me some advice to start looking at Claude Code as opposed to just using Cursor. Now Claude Code has as far as I know, it's like a competitor to Cursor. Harely actually showed us you can use it inside of Cursor, which I think is quite interesting. So, all these tools are kind of getting into bed with each other. But he encouraged me pretty strongly to check out Claude Code and that's what I've been hearing a lot lately out in my networks and stuff.
Mitchell Davis:So I'm gonna give that a try. I had it pulled up here this morning, so gonna give that a try and just see do I get any better results with it, and we'll go from there. Yep. So yeah. So, again, thanks, Herrily.
Mitchell Davis:We know you listen. And, yeah, appreciate your your time and your help there. Mate, we also caught up with Project Hammer who do have a code name. So they've got an event running in Sydney mid to late Feb that you're coming down to Sydney for. And we caught up with them this week and went through like, okay, this is all the stuff that we need from them.
Mitchell Davis:So they've started to send some info over. We've given them a timeline of, okay, we need things by today and then we need the final stuff by end of next week. So, now should be a fair bit easier for me to get that all, set up for them hopefully. So, yeah, so that was pretty
Gavin Tye:good. So continuing on from like last week about funding or what we should do about should we raise capital, continue to bootstrap. We had a really good session with inductive. So if anyone's in Queensland and wanna like join an accelerator, I would encourage you to look at Peter Lawrie's inductive program. But he actually got a I can't remember the term he used, but it was reverse.
Gavin Tye:Like, go look back at a twe like imagine we're a $20,000,000 business or a $10,000,000 business and then work backwards, and say, what would that look like and what would we need to put in place to hit that milestone? So if
Mitchell Davis:He had backcasting.
Gavin Tye:Backcasting. Yeah. Okay.
Mitchell Davis:Yeah. As opposed to forecasting. Yeah. Right. Originally, I was like, what is what?
Mitchell Davis:What is this name? And then I figured it out. Right?
Gavin Tye:Yeah. So yeah. And we haven't done that. Like, one of the things that we talk a lot online, but we don't we don't, we haven't sat down and done that. So we're gonna make a plan to, do that while we're in, in Melbourne, where we catch up, maybe when we go for a walk or whatever else.
Gavin Tye:So I'm gonna set up a actual custom GPT for that, like, and say, hey, this is what I wanna do. And then we're just going to talk and record our, our catchups and then I'll put it in the, in the GPT and see what it helps us build out. Right. Because then that will help us understand where we are. Like if project rendezvous, doesn't come to fruition or some other things like what it, what, how do we get to where we want to get to regardless?
Gavin Tye:Right. That doesn't stop us, but, it would definitely accelerate us a little bit. So, that I thought that was really interesting. Yeah. I definitely opened my eyes up about that.
Gavin Tye:Me too.
Mitchell Davis:It was great. So awesome vibes, from Peter. And yeah, if you are interested, I mirror what Gavin said. Yeah.
Gavin Tye:Yeah. Conductive dot a u. Yeah. That's right.
Mitchell Davis:Yep. Well well, once we
Gavin Tye:get close to the end, mate, of the podcast, where where are we sitting? We're like at fifty, thirty six minutes. We're getting up there.
Mitchell Davis:How's Somewhere around there. It's just time for some personal stuff. Yeah. So we're doing which this is something we're gonna try putting all the personal things at the end of the episode. So wedding planning is going really well.
Mitchell Davis:So I mentioned, I think in last week's episode, that we went to my parents, caught up with them. They kind of pushed us on like, hey. You need to get some of these things sorted out. So I can report we have sorted a shit ton of things out since last episode. So our catering is like finalised, locked in.
Mitchell Davis:It's done. It was already that one was not a concern for me at all, but it was we just really needed to finalise that. So we've done that now. The dogs are booked in for pet boarding, which is pretty convenient because our pet boarding is actually, like, two minutes away from where the venue is. So Yeah.
Mitchell Davis:Right. We're very familiar with the suburb that it's in. We figured out alcohol as well. So we're gonna do Dan Murphy's has like a you can they deliver you whatever you order, and then you can return it back whatever you don't use. So fantastic.
Mitchell Davis:We've got an emcee now who is our DJ as well. So we asked him and, yes, he can do emceeing. So that's perfect. We got a photo booth sorted. We've got a bus sorted as well.
Mitchell Davis:So bunch of things that we needed to do, and and those are now done. So Nicole just has on her list hair and makeup. That's now the last thing that needs to be done, which, yes, it's been left a bit late, but, I'm certain we're gonna be able to find something for that. Yeah. And what I had on my list was my suit.
Mitchell Davis:I didn't yet have my suit sorted. So, we went out yesterday. I took the day off to go do a site visit with at the venue with our coordinator and go through all the stuff, that like any of the question marks that we had about, you know, who's got the tables and blah blah blah. And that's like huge weight lifted off my shoulder off our shoulders. So that was fantastic.
Mitchell Davis:And it was so nice to meet them in person as well because we've only met online. And then after that, we went and looked at suits and wedding bands as well. Okay. So went and looked at those. I now I had in mind that I was gonna rock a, like, burgundy suit because I actually I look good.
Mitchell Davis:Burkha. Not a burkha. No. Not a burkha. I'll be wearing a suit.
Mitchell Davis:And I was thinking it was gonna be burgundy or maroon to match the bridesmaids dresses, and I look pretty good. That's one of my colors that I've just always been able to wear. But talking about it with my mom, she was like, oh, just be careful because if your face gets a bit red, which it will, it's gonna be an emotional day, and hopefully, there's some sun and stuff. She's like, you might look like a tomato in a red suit, and it's just, like, might not be exactly what you wanna do. She wasn't, like, saying, do not fucking do this.
Mitchell Davis:But so we took that, guidance. I went and then spoke with, like, the tailors, and they were like, yeah. No. Probably don't. If you're worried about your face getting red, then just don't.
Mitchell Davis:So instead
Gavin Tye:You're wearing pink?
Mitchell Davis:No. Not wearing pink. I think I'm gonna be wearing cream. Yeah. Yeah.
Mitchell Davis:Think beautiful cream suit. I felt like Pitbull. I'll have to send you some photos. I'm not gonna publish them on the on the podcast, but I feel like Pitbull because he's bald and rocking like the full white outfit. Yeah.
Mitchell Davis:I think it's gonna look good.
Gavin Tye:So have you thought about two tone, like different colored pants and and and then a top, like a darker pant and a white top, like a white thing? Exactly. I won't
Mitchell Davis:I won't wear the same top and bottom, but it will be like different shades of white, I'm pretty sure. Really? Yeah. Because we we so still working on it. We're going out this weekend to go to another tailor and actually, like, book this stuff in.
Mitchell Davis:We've got some complications as well that are like, I'm losing weight, and we'll talk about fitness in a sec. But, yeah, I then have to get a suit built, like, created that maybe I don't currently fit, but I will by then. So it's like, it's all a bit of a it's a risk. There's a few things there. So, anyway, I'll I'm still working on the suit, and I can give you everyone an update once we've got it sorted.
Mitchell Davis:Yep. Alright? But, yeah, it's it's gone well. So this has been a huge week for us getting wedding stuff sorted. So it's been exciting.
Mitchell Davis:Well, let's talk fitness. How's your fitness journey going, mate?
Gavin Tye:Yeah. Pretty good. I'm I have I think I'm down nearly two kilos just since last week.
Mitchell Davis:Nice. Wow.
Gavin Tye:Yeah. So I'm down a bit. I'm I'm actually less than two kilos at the moment, like two and a half or something.
Mitchell Davis:So
Gavin Tye:I'm just really, make I just really wanna make sure I'm just trying to get good habits in in place. And it's two exercises a day and then obviously no alcohol and stuff like that, which, that if I don't do the exercise early in the morning, it makes it really, really hard in the afternoon. And, so even this morning I got up 04:30 and went to the gym and then it was like, oh, that's the hard one done. And I come home and just went for a twenty minute run and then I'll take the dog for a walk, dog for a walk later on today. Yeah.
Gavin Tye:So that, that will be my workout. So, awesome. Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah.
Gavin Tye:Anyway, it's, it's going alright. It's, it's going good.
Mitchell Davis:It's sounds like it's going really well. That's awesome, mate.
Gavin Tye:But before Christmas or about November or October last year, I was less than, I was 99 or whatever it was. And now I'm doing all this work just to get back to where I was before. And I was like, it's pissing me off. So
Mitchell Davis:yeah. Well, I similar. I've been through exactly that. I actually went and got last night after doing suit stuff. I went and got a new Apple Watch because the one that I've had for forever, like, died two years ago or something like that.
Mitchell Davis:And I just wear it as like it's a fashion thing. It hasn't I haven't been able to charge it or anything. Speaking of, I need to charge this soon, actually. So when I looked at the health app on there, it had my weight from twenty twenty three, which I guess is the last time I charged it, Amora, and I was 91. Okay.
Mitchell Davis:And now I'm 93, two, three years later, and I'm in the same boat. I'm like, fuck.
Gavin Tye:I'm
Mitchell Davis:still just working back to what I was, and I was overweight back then. Like, I wasn't happy with where I was. So it's it is brutal. But, anyway, it's mine is going okay as well. Yeah.
Mitchell Davis:How's your day? Thank you, mate. I I weighed in yesterday at ninety three, but that was after going out and eating and whatever. I didn't weigh this morning. I I should have.
Mitchell Davis:But Yeah. So I think I'm still hovering around the ninety two mark, which is a bit disappointing because I've been doing a five k walk every day since Sunday, which I you know, recent listeners in recent episodes would know I just wanted to do one five k per week to do like a park run. And after going out with my dad on Sunday, I was like, my legs don't hurt. Why don't I just keep going every day? So not running and just walking has been huge for me.
Mitchell Davis:So I've been doing that and enjoying it. Really enjoying it. So I'm up to I've done 25 k's this week, which is great at time of recording. And I plan to get to 35 by, you know, by Sunday. And I'm loving it.
Gavin Tye:So It's so good for thinking. I do my best thinking when I walk. It just opens up and you come up with a great, great idea
Mitchell Davis:Time for management.
Gavin Tye:Yeah. Time management. It was a great simple thing that yeah.
Mitchell Davis:It's funny. I came out with that and I spent like a whole hour like, oh, imagine what I could do if I manage my time a bit better. I went out last night. I after the whole day of suits and wedding and stuff, I had no thoughts to think. I was so for like an hour, I was just like listening to some music and just focusing on like one step in front of the other.
Mitchell Davis:I had nothing left in the tank. Yep. It was a really long day. So hopefully next time I go out, I'll I'll have some more to think about. But Nicole and I have been doing it.
Mitchell Davis:Every second day, we've been going on a walk together. She's been joining me. It's hurting her more. So I've encouraged her like, why don't you just come with me every day, but you just do like two Ks if that's where you're at right now. And then you just after one K, you just turn around and go back home.
Mitchell Davis:Listen, you're not gonna get hurt. But she's like, no, no. I really wanna be able to do five k. So I'm I'm working on her on on that. I think she needs to work up to it.
Mitchell Davis:But anyway, so, yeah, I've got and it's we're having a blast. Like, just being able to go out, talk with each other. Because most of the time that we spend is like we get home and obviously we talk about our days and stuff, but then we're like, we're watching TV, watching a movie or whatever. And then we're not talking all that much. So this has actually been awesome for our relationship.
Mitchell Davis:It's been great. So I it's really we can do that more.
Gavin Tye:Yeah. We used to do it a lot when we first got married and we have kids. So whatever, like just enjoy the time, like, cause that's gonna change in the next couple of years for you, hopefully. And then, hopefully. Yeah.
Gavin Tye:Also, you know, I'm one for not sticking habits. I do goals. Right. So, but now I'm trying to do habits. So, hopefully you'll embed this to get you like, so the wedding doesn't stop and you keep going.
Gavin Tye:So
Mitchell Davis:Yes. I've been I talked about this with Nicole. I'm like, it kind of sucks that like, you don't get to stop doing this. Like it just this becomes your life now. And that's how I felt at the start of the week.
Mitchell Davis:Yep. But then now, like last night I went out and I'm like I was thinking to myself in my limited thinking capacity. I was like, I could see myself doing this every day. Yeah. Like, all most days, you know, there's sure.
Mitchell Davis:There'll be I could have skipped last night. It was I didn't get back till 10:00 or something like that. So it was a long day, but I wanted you know, obviously, right now, I'm in crunch time. I need to get this done, so I just pushed through. Yep.
Mitchell Davis:Yep. But, yeah, feeling like, yeah, I could see this being just a part of my routine. It's one hour a day is on it was fifty minutes on just fitness, you know, and I just make it happen.
Gavin Tye:It can't be good to us sitting at computers all day. Right?
Mitchell Davis:Yeah.
Gavin Tye:So getting out and doing that stuff. Like, I always, I try to do it. I do lose it every now. And when I hurt my knee, that was a bit difficult to do, but I'll walk every day. Otherwise, Melvin doesn't get out.
Gavin Tye:Right? So
Mitchell Davis:Well, yeah. But I I think like walking the dog is kind of a different thing anyway, at least for us. Like our dogs are only small. They can only go for fifteen, twenty minutes anyway. Yeah.
Mitchell Davis:So but yeah, it's it's easy to say now, right, that like, yeah, oh, this is a part of my life and whatever, you know, and probably I will regress at some point. But for what it's worth right now, I'm really enjoying having this be a part of my life. So Yeah. It's great. Yeah.
Mitchell Davis:So I just hope that this leads to more weight loss because it does kind of feel like I stalled over this week. I don't think I ate badly. So we'll see. See what happens. But, yeah, it's it's all going pretty well.
Mitchell Davis:But yeah, mate, the five k hates to see me coming at this point. I'm I'm knocking them out of the park.
Gavin Tye:It's no problem. So Nice. Nice. It'd be good. Are you connected your app or Apple watch is connected to your Apple health.
Gavin Tye:It tells you when your trends change like over time and it'll notify you, oh shit. Like, it's a good bonus when it tells you your train your thing has changed. So Yeah. Well, like my my steps yesterday was like 13,000 steps.
Mitchell Davis:I haven't done that in because we did all that shopping. I haven't done that in forever. Like, know, I've been apart from the shopping, I've been averaging like eight or 9,000, I think. So it's really cool to see that. And I'm checking it every day.
Mitchell Davis:Like I'm looking at in the health app and just trying to take stock of like, I made these things happen. And it's inspiring for myself to like, I wanna do more tomorrow, you know, at least do the same tomorrow. Yep. You know? So I think it's really important
Gavin Tye:that we do this as well because when we start hiring people, you want them to be fit and healthy too. Right? So if we can lead by example, it's always good too. Right? Cause you want a fit
Mitchell Davis:and healthy business. So Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's right.
Mitchell Davis:My watch has died though as we
Gavin Tye:as we talk. So hopefully I can charge
Mitchell Davis:it here. Otherwise, I gotta wait till I get home. Something else had happened during this meeting, mate. I got another confirmed meeting at AIMS.
Gavin Tye:I've got a rejection. Yeah. Yeah. So Yeah. No good.
Gavin Tye:Anyway.
Mitchell Davis:Alright. Cool. Week, we have episode 50 coming up, a big number. Stay tuned for next week. So, anyway, thank you for joining us, mate.
Mitchell Davis:Where can people find you online?
Gavin Tye:Yeah. You can find me at, on LinkedIn, Gavin Ty, t y e, and, or at journey at six sides if you've got any feedback or any questions or if you wanna give us a, review, that'd be great as well on the Apple store. We haven't checked that for ages, have we?
Mitchell Davis:No. We can check that for next week as opposed to doing it now at the end of the episode, mate.
Gavin Tye:Yeah. Where can they find you, mate?
Mitchell Davis:They could find me on LinkedIn at Mitch Dav and in a bunch of other places at Mitch Dav. Still waiting on someone to add me on Strava. It's a bit lonely out there. Y'all are missing all my great achievements, but it's okay. I won't hold it against you.
Mitchell Davis:Alright. We'll catch you all then. Have a good week. You too, mate.