Hey. I'm Mitchell Davis, a Laravel developer.
Gavin Tye:I'm Gavin Tye, sales and marketing.
Mitchell Davis:We are building sixsides.co. It's an events platform that helps you build a stronger community through events, and this is our b to b SaaS journey. How are you, mate?
Gavin Tye:Mate, pretty good. Pretty good. Pretty tired. Everyone's a bit sluggish this week. We'll talk
Mitchell Davis:mate, about
Gavin Tye:I've been overexerting myself in exercise, which we'll talk about later on. But, yeah, it's, I've been up since 04:30. I did a workshop last night to 09:00 our time, and then I was up at 04:30 this morning, so, or 04:00. Was a bit Yeah.
Mitchell Davis:Right. We'll save the fitness for the end, but what's the workshop. What's, what does that mean?
Gavin Tye:Just working on my other business. So I was just delivering a workshop for a Singaporean company. So, cause we can't do it in person. We're just breaking it up and doing it over four sessions over the next two weeks. So, yeah, was good.
Mitchell Davis:Yeah. So are you gonna have a few of these where you're up till 09:00 or something?
Gavin Tye:Yeah. I've got tonight, last night, tonight, next Thursday, next Friday.
Mitchell Davis:Yeah. Wow. Right at the end of the week as well for you.
Gavin Tye:Yeah, mate. Yeah. Mate, no rest for the wicked?
Mitchell Davis:No. And you are wicked.
Gavin Tye:Yep. How are you, mate? Yep.
Mitchell Davis:It's true. I'm good. Apart from fitness stuff, because again, we'll save that for the end. I'm pretty good. This was a like pretty big week for us.
Mitchell Davis:We we got through a fair few things, like in six sides, I mean, we got through a lot. We got some exciting stuff coming up that we're gonna talk about. What else? Caught up with my with my parents last night to go through, like, some wedding prep stuff, and that was really good. It was good to get some perspective from them, and they were talking us through about, like, seating charts and stuff, like, where we're gonna fit people and all this sort of stuff.
Mitchell Davis:I gotta figure out where I'm putting you guys because you don't really know anyone else that'll be there. So it's like, we'll make it work. And thank you for RSVPing, by the way.
Gavin Tye:Appreciate it. We did it. We've already added songs to it. We added, low rider to the playlist, I think. So
Mitchell Davis:I don't know what happened then because it didn't you weren't in that in that list. So Yeah. Melanie might have say. Thank you for RSVP.
Gavin Tye:There's so many politics around where you sit people at a wedding. Yeah.
Mitchell Davis:Yeah. There is an ultimately like the tables that we have, it's tables of 10. And so 10 can be a bit of a tricky number, but I mean, it is what it is. We can't change it. And like, yeah, we do have to be respectful of like, okay, if certain people, you know, if it's a group of two that comes a couple, do they wanna sit with these other people?
Mitchell Davis:Like, you know, is it like a a buddy system? You gotta have your buddy so that no one's stuck on a table with nobody that they know, all that sort of stuff. So we'll figure that out. But in your cases, I'm just gonna put you guys with some people that I think will be fun, and you'll have a good time. Like, you guys are both really fun and sociable.
Gavin Tye:So Are we gonna set up, your wedding inside six sides and get everyone to download it and take photos? And
Mitchell Davis:No. I'm not doing that. I don't need any extra stress. Though. People can take photos and do whatever they want with them.
Mitchell Davis:That's fine with me, but no.
Gavin Tye:No. As if you would. No. Yeah. That's good.
Gavin Tye:It's getting close then. So are you practicing? Are you gonna do a dance like, get your mom to teach you to do a dance? Brilliant.
Mitchell Davis:Yeah. Yeah. So we asked her about that last night. So Oh, she'd just yeah. My mom is a or used to run a dance studio with a few different.
Mitchell Davis:She maybe had maybe a 150 students or something like that across three locations. And so in addition to that, she would also teach wedding dancing. And I've always had like in the back of my mind, like, okay. When it's my turn, I'll ask mom and that'll be really nice. She stopped doing dancing, I don't know, five, eight years ago, something like that when we moved.
Mitchell Davis:And, yeah, then I've had in the back of my mind, gotta ask her, but I wasn't sure if she would want to do it. And, of course, she did. So, yeah, she was really happy. And then she's like, have you got your music? And now she's instantly in, like, dance teacher mode of like, okay.
Mitchell Davis:We gotta go. Like, we gotta get on with this. And Nicole doesn't have a lot of rhythm. She's not like, she struggles to find a beat in music and stuff like that. It's been a long running arc for us of me trying to teach her how to find the beat in music.
Mitchell Davis:So Are
Gavin Tye:you the dancer? Are you the dancer in your couple?
Mitchell Davis:On the dance floor, she is much more natural than me. Like, I'm like a total developer. No. I'm just a total, like, uncomfortable being the center of attention doing anything physical. Yeah.
Mitchell Davis:Like it was brutal for me with the tea ceremony games that we talked about last week. That was really tough. I didn't enjoy the like, everyone looking at me while I'm trying to do physical stuff. So I won't enjoy that for the dance, but at least I can, like, hear the music, understand the rhythm, know, okay, cool. Now we're moving into this part, whatever.
Mitchell Davis:And we're gonna practice the shit out of it so that it's not like as big of a stressful thing, hopefully. And I don't wanna fuck it up either. You know? Like, it's my it's my wedding dates. Right?
Mitchell Davis:But, yeah, for Nicole, she might struggle a little with the rhythm. So it was funny last night we went to my parents' place. And then after we asked my mom and she said yes, then she was like, okay. Well, we need to check. Can Nicole, like, follow?
Mitchell Davis:So then mom asked Nicole to get up and they, like, danced together and mom led her a bit, and she totally was able to follow. And so mom was like, okay. You'll be fine. It'll be okay. So that
Gavin Tye:was Your mom what what's your mom and dad's name?
Mitchell Davis:Jody and Peter. And
Gavin Tye:Peter's your dad? No. Your mom, your mom would have said, Peter, I hope he asked me. Like, I don't wanna bring it up because I don't wanna make it feel bad. I guarantee she would have been.
Gavin Tye:And then Yeah. Maybe. And he's like, just ask him. Just ask him. And she's like, no.
Gavin Tye:No. If he really wants to. And maybe.
Mitchell Davis:Yep. Mom is not shy to let me know things. Mom is very forward. So I think I don't think it would have gone like that. I think if this was really important to her, she would have asked me.
Mitchell Davis:Yeah. But, anyway, so it was, anyway, that was a a nice night that happened this week. Yeah. So, anyway, that's where we're at. Why don't we move on to our follow on topic from last week's title, which was around funding?
Mitchell Davis:Yeah. We had a a meeting with a potential how would you describe these guys?
Gavin Tye:They're like an accelerator slash VC that has a footprint around the world. Yeah. And we just had a meeting with them just to discuss, they had an entrepreneur in residence program coming up and we, I just wasn't sure, although like just had a conversation with them, but their commitment, we had a conversation with them and it seems okay. They don't, they didn't really tell you what you cover in those 10. They wanted us to go into their office for ten weeks.
Mitchell Davis:Yeah. In person, ten weeks.
Gavin Tye:In person, ten weeks. And there's no guarantee of anything at the end. And I was like, well, we just can't do that. Like it was not, that's not practical for what in our situation where we're running multiple businesses. And we said that that's probably not, it's going to be difficult for us to do.
Gavin Tye:And it just, just wasn't a good partnership. Anyway, they said they'd let us know the next day, which we decided we wouldn't go ahead with it anyway. And then they said, yeah, you're not a good fit, which I completely agree. We are not chomping at the bit to go into the office for ten weeks.
Mitchell Davis:And it was funny though, because you said something on the call, which, like, immediately tagged the the good vibes we were building up. You're like, yeah. But, you know, like, we're not 20 year old students with, like, no commitments. We've got businesses to run. Instantly, the lady we were talking to, her face went, like, stone cold, and she's like, well, I just wanna pull you up on that, that, like, everyone else is in the exact same position as you, and it's not for 20 year old students.
Mitchell Davis:And instantly, could tell I was like, okay. We don't get this fucking dick. There's no way. Yeah. But you're right.
Mitchell Davis:That doesn't fit us anyway. So like I could expect to maybe go in and do that for like one week or something. Sure.
Gavin Tye:Yeah.
Mitchell Davis:Like it's a, it's a, it's a trade, right? Of like, if these guys were to give us a bunch of money, they want to know who we are and that we're not just fucking around. Like we are taking this seriously, but ten weeks is a lot. That's a big commitment to them potentially not have anything at the other side of it. Right.
Gavin Tye:And I've done some other investigating and apparently their, what they, their terms are not the most favorable as well. Like they'll, let's just say if they give you $200,000 they'll want $60,000 back in platform fees. So you've got to give them almost back 30%. And it was like, and then we're already doing stuff with inductive and I was like, we just, we can get what we need out of inductive. I just gotta ask better questions, which we started.
Gavin Tye:We put that into play with Peter next week. So yeah, it's an interesting, it's an interesting, exercise to go through. Like, it's, I think it's good just to practice because it's, you gotta know, you've gotta kiss a lot of frogs, would imagine to find a prince or princess. Yeah.
Mitchell Davis:That's one way to put it. Yeah. Yeah. So anyway, so, we're still interested, in, like, learning more about funding. Yeah.
Mitchell Davis:But, yeah, just that one wasn't wasn't right for us. So
Gavin Tye:Cool. We've also had some development since our since last week as well with project rendezvous. It seems to be going positive. And if that does head the way that it's going, we may not need it to be honest.
Mitchell Davis:Yeah. That's right. That's a big enough deal if it does pull off that. Yeah. We might not need the funding.
Gavin Tye:So, so just give you an update on that is the, we're only talking about one event really, or it's over, it's one event, but there's a lot of satellite events that go around it over for a period of time before and after what we've done or what's happened now is the team is now speaking to the head of the, of this event over in The U S and now they're looking at positioning us to be a long term partner over a longer timeline, which, which really, which, which will come with a higher price point. I would imagine a con a higher contract term. So, We don't know how that would be like,
Mitchell Davis:it would recur every couple of years or something like that.
Gavin Tye:Right? Like it would be.
Mitchell Davis:Yeah. That's how it goes from being this one event to potentially multiple
Gavin Tye:two or three. Yeah. It could be two or three or could be over a longer period of time. So that, that is almost too good to be true. I'll be honest.
Gavin Tye:But why couldn't be, what we've shown them is unbelievable, to be honest. If I was in their position, I'd be like, oh my God, can you see what these guys are doing? Right. Can you, you believe what these guys are doing? So we just have to be prepared.
Gavin Tye:I kind of think that I'll have to travel to The U S probably in the shortish period of time to go and meet these other people, or something. Hopefully I can get them pay for it, but, probably not.
Mitchell Davis:Yeah. We will see.
Gavin Tye:Yeah. So that's good. And we're still progressing everything else. We've got some other deals we're working on. So, you know, we, hopefully we won't need it.
Gavin Tye:We're we're trying not to need it funding.
Mitchell Davis:Yeah. Yeah. That's it.
Gavin Tye:Yeah. Cool. Do you feel about everything's going with project one day view?
Mitchell Davis:Yeah. It's really good. When I saw that email the other night just saying, hey. Like, you know, this is what's happening. We're talking with the team in The US and da da da.
Mitchell Davis:I was like, awesome. Okay. So they haven't shot us down yet based off that like pricing that we gave them last time which is great. And the tone of the email was good. Like, you know, the person that sent this to you is based in Australia, and it still feels like they are championing us up to the the higher level team.
Mitchell Davis:Right? So that's a really good sign.
Gavin Tye:It is a little bit out of our control right now, which is makes me nervous, but we've also done a lot of pre work before, which they wouldn't just be speaking about, Hey, I saw this platform. They'd be saying, Hey, we've had a conversation with these guys and they've done all this work. They've written a white paper and done all this content, have a read of it, then come back. Like that's a, that's a far different. We aren't in control, but we kind of positioned ourselves to have an influence on how they see us.
Gavin Tye:Yeah. Still makes me nervous. Still makes me nervous. Sure.
Mitchell Davis:But but literally we can't do anything about it. Right? Like, you have to at some point you have to lay your cards on the table and that's what we've done. And now it's up to them if they like it or not. And then the hope would be that they like it enough to get on a call and have us on there.
Mitchell Davis:And then the broader team can see us and see, you know, that we are genuine and we care about everything that we we've written about there. We do actually care and we live and breathe that. So. Yep. Let's just see.
Mitchell Davis:Right? Yep. Follow the plan and see what happens. So we'll keep you updated as always.
Gavin Tye:Well I wait to the time that we can announce this on the podcast and I can't wait.
Mitchell Davis:We can decloak the the code name and tell you who it is. Fingers crossed that comes soon. Well, on the subject of other meetings before we get into the big one for this week, which will be AIM, we also had a a meeting with marinas who we talked about somewhere back in December. But, yeah, that's a conference that we've got that's coming up in May. Yep.
Mitchell Davis:And, yeah, it was good to touch base yesterday. Shout out to Sylvia at Marinas. We got to reconnect with them and just go through some of the requirements that they've got. As we get closer. We're gonna deliver everything and have it ready to go for them in early March.
Mitchell Davis:And then they've got two whole months to basically get in and, you know, make any changes or whatever that they're after. So Yep. That was really good. What else? Any other meetings this week?
Gavin Tye:Yeah. There's been a couple, but just going back to marinas, it does show that when we spoke to them yesterday, they've got 64 more than 64 sponsors that are going or exhibitors are going to the event. Which shows that, yeah, which shows that what we're trying to do with the lead, like with the sponsor tool to help them. The goal will be for me to go there is to go around and talk to everyone. And I just had a thought then you, we had a good conversation during the week about a second app, like the app.
Gavin Tye:Yes. It might tie into it. And, and then I just had a thought then maybe that is, it has to be a second app because how do you show them the lead tool without if they're already into one app? Right. Cause it doesn't apply.
Mitchell Davis:So what do you mean?
Gavin Tye:Like if I go around and speak to people and they're, oh no. Cause I would still be able to scan badges. Right?
Mitchell Davis:Yeah. Cause they, they were the sponsor reps, like, will already know who they are, and therefore they can have access to this other part of the app. But I still do think it probably makes sense to have a separate app just for this purpose. It's something that we're kind of so like, I could give you a little update on that. I this week, I had worked on the back end for storing leads and how we will be able to attach them to events and add notes and things like that because it's different from the attendee profiles that we have right now because we won't know anything about the person whose badge you've just scanned other than what we scanned, their name right and maybe who they work for or whatever.
Mitchell Davis:So, it's a different concept to an attendee. So I've been working on the back end for that. The plan is next week to have the front end connected up and talking to that. So the ability to do the scan, it goes through the AI. We pre fill all the details and then, like, the very next steps would be write down a note or give a rating or take a photo or whatever.
Mitchell Davis:And all of that is now Yeah. I'm, like, working on that stuff. But yeah. So it's going well. I'm feeling pretty good about the timeline.
Mitchell Davis:It doesn't leave much time for the AR stuff, augmented reality stuff that we wanna do. Okay. But if I can just have anything there, like, I'll I'll work on that as much as I can right up to the date. And if it's not perfect, then so be it. Like, I think it's okay to just kind of show, hey, know, this is some of the fun stuff we're doing, that we're literally working on like this week, you know, whatever.
Mitchell Davis:Yeah. There'll be a way to position that. So Yep. Yeah. So all in all, the the lead capture tool stuff is going well, but I do think there's probably room for it to be its own app.
Mitchell Davis:I don't know if that if it makes sense to have it as its own app for AIM because there is a bit of there's a fair bit of work to do, to to build out another app. But, anyway, we'll see. My opinions on this are changing each week, basically. So
Gavin Tye:Yeah. Yeah. We've got it tested too. Right? Like, we've gotta be able to test it.
Gavin Tye:We gotta get a bunch of early users. So and I've got a few in mind, and we'll go from there.
Mitchell Davis:So yep. Yeah. Perfect. Alright. Cool.
Mitchell Davis:Well, let's get into the the meat of it, which is AIM. So the AIM conference is coming up the ninth to the eleventh of Feb. So just this week, you and I booked flights and accommodation in Melbourne. Mhmm. We're heading down on
Gavin Tye:the
Mitchell Davis:Sunday afternoon beforehand, and then we're both flying out on Wednesday afternoon like before 05:00. Let's just get home at that point. It's all done and dusted. Right? So Yeah.
Mitchell Davis:And you were thinking maybe of staying another day after, but then you've you've canned that. Right?
Gavin Tye:It's too long away from the family. I don't like being that far away. If I do need to duck out, which I'm trying to duck out to see some people, I'll duck out during the day and then just in a quiet time of the day. Yeah. But we'll see how it goes.
Gavin Tye:Most important, the thing I'm looking forward to most is we decided that, because we're doing this fitness stuff is, well, like, are we going to do there? We're going to make sure we do something. So we're going to hire bikes. We're going to get in Sunday afternoon to hire a bike for three days. And, yeah, we found it not far from where we're staying.
Gavin Tye:If we had had that idea, we would have booked a hotel closer to hire the bikes. Right?
Mitchell Davis:No. It's only like a ten minute walk, so it's it'll be fine. But, yeah, we were like sitting down looking at our flight times when we get in is, like, 3PM thereabouts. This bike shop shuts at 5PM. And so we gotta it's gonna be a bit of a scramble from the airport because we'll have luggage, and I'll I'll
Gavin Tye:Well, worst case scenario worst case scenario, we'll just go there on the way from the airport, drop one of us off to go there and get the bikes and just sit outside and wait. And we'll go drop the bike bags back and then walk over.
Mitchell Davis:So That could work.
Gavin Tye:Yeah. Yeah. We have a we have a couple plans there, but mate, I'm really looking forward to it. I've been to Melbourne a lot, like for work, but I've never really gone out of the CBD. Like, I've only exported on foot and now this gives us so much more reach.
Gavin Tye:Plus we get to do some exercise. So
Mitchell Davis:Yeah. Exactly. I I look forward to it too. It's actually why I booked the place that we're staying at is, like, pretty close to the the Music Bowl Yep. Like, in that giant park there.
Mitchell Davis:It's like a big national park or whatever. Don't know. But some type of park. And plenty of room there to go on some, like, some nice long walks each morning or, you know, whatever. And then you were like, well, what about a bike as well?
Mitchell Davis:Maybe we could do a bike. So we might do a walk and a and a bike each day. Yeah. I think that'll be really nice.
Gavin Tye:So Mini triathlon.
Mitchell Davis:Yeah. Thank you. Well, I think this week this week no. I'll save it. I'll save it.
Mitchell Davis:But I got some some updates for you. Anyway, so that'll be really good. That ties in as well to the credit card. So we applied this week for an Amex credit card because we might as well start getting points for, you know, any of our expenses that we've got, which aren't super high. We don't have that many, but why not get some points?
Mitchell Davis:We don't plan to use it beyond our means. We'll just use it literally to pay for stuff we're already paying for anyway. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Mitchell Davis:And then like the sign up bonus is like a 150,000 Qantas points or something like that, you know, which is huge. Yeah. And I've just done this for Atlas. I've just got the Amex card for my other, my software development business, and I'm using it in the same way. I'll just we have bills, AWS, and, you know, rent and all this sort of stuff that I might as well just be getting points on.
Mitchell Davis:And only the week last week, I got a personal credit card as well, which is a Qantas one. So I'm only now just like opening my eyes up to this world. I'd always kind of been against it, and you actually said that you feel the same way. Like, we're not neither of us wanna spend beyond our means. But, in this case, if we don't use it for that and we just use it to, rack up points on stuff, we're already buying them.
Mitchell Davis:Why not? You know? Yep.
Gavin Tye:Yep. Well, I bought a MacBook pro or air, whatever it was on my on a, like a forty month financing, like last year. And it was like, we paid it off within a couple months. It was just like, we don't need to have that. And I just, we have it there as an emergency if we need it, but we, we, we just don't need it.
Gavin Tye:We we applied for a Qantas card too yesterday, I think.
Mitchell Davis:So in
Gavin Tye:for for six sides. So sorry. For for DealBuddy. Yep. Ah, cool.
Gavin Tye:Okay. Is
Mitchell Davis:that with the Amex one
Gavin Tye:or different one? Yeah. Yeah. Amex one. But, yeah, we're getting ready for AIM now.
Gavin Tye:Like, we've ordered we organized the banner last week, the big banner for the back of the thing that's come in. You've got that at your house. It's surprisingly more heavier than you thought.
Mitchell Davis:Yeah. It's like 12 kilos. And I thought this was something that would fit into my suitcase. Right? And then I get it and it it is a lot bigger than that.
Mitchell Davis:So gonna have to get this, like, separately in the cargo hold or figure out if we can courier it down there, but then that's got its own complexity. And Yep. So, yeah, I I still do have to look at that.
Gavin Tye:Mate, just carry it in and then just do arm curls as you're taking it in. Like, you can kill two birds with one stone.
Mitchell Davis:Maybe I how could I put it up in the what's that called? In the check-in, in the thing above your
Gavin Tye:Oh, yeah. Yeah. Carry on luggage.
Mitchell Davis:In the carry on. Yeah.
Gavin Tye:You can. Like, I can take the one that I have and it's a lot smaller. Yeah. Getting a lit yeah. It's getting a little bit past twelve twelve kilos is a little bit heavy, I think, for that, for them
Mitchell Davis:to I think they only like to do seven kilos or something.
Gavin Tye:But is different. They're bit more relaxed. Yeah. They're a bit more relaxed.
Mitchell Davis:So Yeah. Because they charge you more. Anyway, so We'll put it in the in the cargo bay and I'm sure it'll be fine. I've still gotta I should get it out. Well, I wanna I I should ask you, should I open it up and give it a test run and see if it's alright?
Mitchell Davis:Because if it's not, we at least still have time to
Gavin Tye:Yeah. Let's do that because it could what are we gonna do if that doesn't work? So have a look
Mitchell Davis:at it. We'll look like idiots.
Gavin Tye:Yeah. And at least you know how to do it as well. Like, and then you're not stressed because you're going to go into an environment in there that you're not used to. And you may, you may be overwhelming for you. Yeah.
Mitchell Davis:We'll see. We'll see. I, yeah. Maybe. But I feel like I'll be alright.
Mitchell Davis:Yeah. So anyway, yeah, we got that. We got the banner, and the meeting booking portal has opened or will
Gavin Tye:open Yep. Today or something? Yeah. It's well, is that I'm gonna spend some time on it today. I've got a meeting at 10:00 and then I will spend some time on it straight after.
Gavin Tye:Perfect. Try to find some people down there. Which is, which is really what we're going for. Right? Yep.
Gavin Tye:Yep. So we had a good meeting with a, with an association yesterday, around construction and they're gonna be down there. So, we're gonna try to catch up with them. Yeah. I'm really looking forward to it, to be honest.
Gavin Tye:I think it'll be open our eyes. And unfortunately we just couldn't make the dice work. We just had to get a refund. They, the people we use just, oh God, they pissed me off.
Mitchell Davis:Shit the
Gavin Tye:bed. Yeah. They said, yeah, we're two week turnaround or three week turnaround. Okay. Ordered.
Gavin Tye:No. And nah, actually it's going to be five weeks. I was like, you're kidding. And the customer service was shit. It's a good lesson on our customer service cannot be like that.
Mitchell Davis:No. Well, and it's not. We're nowhere near what they are. They were just terrible. It was like pulling teeth the whole time.
Mitchell Davis:Any little thing that we wanted to ask them or, like, they're so unclear with their instructions on things. It was terrible.
Gavin Tye:Terrible. Yeah. In con contrast to that banner company, they were actually really good. Like, they got in there. It helped.
Gavin Tye:It was pretty awesome. But I do have an update on the dice, Mitch.
Mitchell Davis:So when
Gavin Tye:I looked at this price here in, like in Australia, like for an Australian company, was like a dollar 20 a dice. And it was, it was relative. It was pretty expensive, but you know, for short term and blah, blah, blah, blah, for what we thought we were getting, it is what it is. Since we don't have, we're not gonna have the time constraint. I went looking on Alibaba and I found them for 30¢.
Gavin Tye:So, way cheaper, way better customer service even over there. And then I was able to get us three different colors of dice and I ordered a thousand. So I ordered way more than what we originally gonna have, but I've got an idea of like stealth marketing wherever we're going to an events or something like that. I'm just, we just drop a few dice around the place and just, it's Like now
Mitchell Davis:out in the streets or in the
Gavin Tye:Well, we'll see. We'll just have a pocket full of dice and we'll just go, hey, go dump some dice. Right. And then people will, I, it's interesting. People will use it.
Gavin Tye:So we changed our logo a bit to accommodate. So it's 6sides.co so they know how to find us. Yeah. Yeah. I'm, I'm really looking forward to that.
Gavin Tye:Like having that bit of fun. Yeah.
Mitchell Davis:Will be fun. That'll be the next, the next event after. Oh, I wonder if for the event on Feb twenty first, if it would be in by then. How long
Gavin Tye:is it?
Mitchell Davis:Do you know the delivery time?
Gavin Tye:Yeah. It was thirty days from the other day. But butting up against China. Yeah. Yep.
Gavin Tye:Yeah. It's just we get them when we get them. Right?
Mitchell Davis:Yeah. It's just
Gavin Tye:Yeah.
Mitchell Davis:Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But it'll it'll be cool. Yeah.
Mitchell Davis:Alright. I'm looking forward to it. I'm sure Nick is as well. He's still the only one that's taken us up on the on the offer. So Yeah.
Mitchell Davis:Why don't you give the offer again one more time for the the slow perks?
Gavin Tye:Well, especially if you're doing if you're listening, particularly Hirilee and potentially Roman, if you do do a post that mentions six sides and the our b two b SaaS journey on LinkedIn and tag us in it, we'll send you a couple of dice when we get them in a couple of weeks time. So
Mitchell Davis:And Michael as well. Michael Drinder. I know you listen to the show, so what the hell? Let's get a post up. I'll send you some dice.
Gavin Tye:Yep. So Yeah. Awesome. And no. Won't say that one.
Gavin Tye:I was gonna go for a low blow joke there.
Mitchell Davis:Oh, I think I know. Listen back to last week. You could fill in the dots. Anyway, mate, to round out the episode, let's talk fitness. So the 75 hard slash 75 medium challenges.
Mitchell Davis:You're doing the hard run. I'm doing the medium. Yeah. So this is a series of, like it's a seventy five day commitment to do certain amount of exercise, drink a certain amount of water, stick to a diet, and in your case, do reading of books each day, but I'm not doing that. Is there anything else?
Mitchell Davis:Oh, I'd take like a progress photo. Basically, just like a fitness challenge. So what's your version, and how's how's yours going?
Gavin Tye:Well, I started mine on Monday as well. So it was two forty five minute workouts, read 10 pages of a book, follow a diet, take a progress photo, no alcohol and drink four liters of water. So it's gone pretty good. I, I've realized that if I don't get up and do the hard exercise in the morning, then it makes it very difficult. And the end of the day, yesterday I was so close to not doing it.
Gavin Tye:I was really sore. So I got up and went for a walk and then it was really hot in the middle of the day. And I was like, I don't want to go for another walk. Oh. And I tried to talk myself out of it.
Gavin Tye:I was like, no, no, just get on a bike and go for a ride. So I got a road bike. And so I just went for a ride and I was, I'm glad that I've done it. So I lost a couple kilos so far. It could be just water.
Gavin Tye:Yeah.
Mitchell Davis:Don't dismiss it on water. It's whatever the scale says. And that's what it is.
Gavin Tye:Most importantly, I've been this week, I'm reading a child, a book about parenting. So I've always been meaning to read it and then just get distracted. So I'm learning a lot about how to be a better parent. So which is the best thing out of the whole thing of doing it.
Mitchell Davis:So Nice. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Very good.
Mitchell Davis:That's very wholesome. Wholesome. Yeah. Well, for me, I'm doing the medium, which is like three liters of water, half an hour of exercise. Again, I'm not reading the books because I'm just like, whatever.
Mitchell Davis:I read enough of life. You're smart on That's what I think, but I didn't wanna say it, but thank you. Yes. We
Gavin Tye:all know it.
Mitchell Davis:Yeah. No. It's it's obvious. Who's listening
Gavin Tye:would have come to that conclusion straight away.
Mitchell Davis:They could tell. I'm sure. But, yeah, mine's going well as well. I haven't missed anything yet. But now I can talk about I think I have some form of shin splints, which makes it very hard to run.
Mitchell Davis:Yep. And so I did I did not do the park run on Saturday because it was rainy and miserable on Saturday morning, and I thought I don't wanna go out in the rain for an hour and mess around. So I waited until Monday morning and I did a five k around my suburb and it was really good. It didn't hurt too much. It took me like forty five minutes and I got to I got back to my street and I had done 4.4 k's, I think.
Mitchell Davis:And then I was like, you prick. So I went I had to go another there was no way I was stopping it at 4.4. So I had to go like another couple streets over to get out, and I ended up with, like, 5.1 k's or something like that. So I was pretty happy about that. And then I didn't do any walking on Tuesday.
Mitchell Davis:On Wednesday, though, I wanted to do it again, and I I set out and I started at 08:00 this time, which was a mistake because it was just like that little bit hotter. The sun was up that bit higher and so Yep. Not as ideal. And then two Ks in, maybe twenty minutes or so, somewhere around there, my shins were just like aching.
Gavin Tye:It was really Even from walking.
Mitchell Davis:Yeah. Well, no. I did some running in that twenty minutes, like just little bursts of, okay, a couple 100 meters of running and then I would just walk. Yep. And so maybe it was like three k's in, I'm not sure.
Mitchell Davis:But yeah, I just was like, I can't do this. Even walking, it was just super painful. And yeah, so then I came home and that was disappointing. Ended up being half an hour anyway, so I got my half hour in, but I was really trying to push to do five k's. So yeah.
Mitchell Davis:Then talking with you, you were like, it sounds like you got shin splints and you can look into ways you can fix it and da da da. And then I talked with my dad about it last night and he said he's had this happen plenty before and you just don't run. Just walk and then this isn't an issue until you like build up the right muscle mass and body gets used to doing it. So I'm gonna try that from now on, not running at all and just walking. Yeah.
Mitchell Davis:And then that will hopefully help me resolve this issue. And then talking with dad, he said that he I told him about the parked run and all this sort of stuff. He said that he often will go to some like somewhere near where they live, not do a parked run, but do like either five, seven or nine Ks. I didn't even know he was doing this. So he said he goes fairly often.
Mitchell Davis:So on Sunday morning, I'm gonna go meet him and do I don't know which option we'll go with, but at least five Ks of a walk with dad. And that'll be really nice. So I'm looking forward to that. So I won't do park run, but I'll do this with dad at least this weekend. Yeah.
Mitchell Davis:But, yeah, as long as I'm doing five k's a week, it like in one go, one five k per week until the wedding, then I'm still counting that as like this meeting that goal that I had of doing a park run, you know?
Gavin Tye:Yeah. You can't, you can't force yourself through shin splints. Right? Like, it's just too hard. I've known I've luckily enough never had it, but, I know plenty of mates that have, and, yeah, it's just very painful.
Gavin Tye:So what have you thought about getting a, like, just a secondhand bike off marketplace or something and just get take that whole stress off your
Mitchell Davis:your shoes? The thing is I want to be able to walk. Well, I want to be able to run Yeah. Is my goal. Like, that's what I want.
Mitchell Davis:But I know that that might for me, that might be a while away. Like, I might have to lose the weight so I'm not carrying extra. And I'm down to 92 now, so I'm at the four kilo mark that I've lost since the fifth of Jan, which I'm stoked about. And if I can get that down to like in the low eighties or something like that, then maybe that's a good spot where I could be running and it's not as hard on my body. Yeah.
Mitchell Davis:So I think I'll just do the walking. Yes. I really wanna ride a bike like we talked about in Melbourne and stuff. I actually really enjoy it, but I also like the fact that there's no, like, there's no free lunch with walking. If you wanna go somewhere, you have taken every single step.
Mitchell Davis:Right? With a bike, there's gears and inertia and, like, all of that stuff. It's a bit easier. So
Gavin Tye:But you also but you also ride for like 20 k's, 25 k's, not for five. It evens itself out.
Mitchell Davis:Yeah. I get that. And I'm not like shitting on bike riding. I'm just I like the mental aspect of like, a walk, it is you are taking every single step, you know?
Gavin Tye:So but that Mel's got a goal. Her goal for the challenge is 10,000 steps a day.
Mitchell Davis:So So is Nicole's. How's she going with it?
Gavin Tye:Yeah. Yeah. She's got it every day and she's doing it. Yeah. Sometimes I see her running past the computer just trying to get her steps up.
Gavin Tye:I'm like, you look like an idiot. Yeah. So yeah. So but it's, yeah. Good on you.
Gavin Tye:But you you just can't force yourself through shin splints.
Mitchell Davis:So No. Yeah. So anyway, so that's all going pretty well. I'm pretty happy. I'm doing something with with my diet.
Mitchell Davis:I'm doing each day I have a salad at like a chicken schnitzel salad at work. And doesn't sound super healthy, but, like, the proportion of chicken schnitzel is pretty low in this salad. And when I first started out, I was like, okay. I'll just have the salad as it is. And then week two, I was like, I'm gonna add some feta to this twice a week.
Mitchell Davis:So I'll add it like on Tuesday and Thursday to just kind of break it up because otherwise it's pretty boring. Right? And then this week, I was like, I'm gonna do it three times a week. So now it's Monday, Wednesday, and Friday. I'm gonna leave it at that because I I know I can sustain this.
Mitchell Davis:But, yeah, it's funny how, like, we just give ourselves a little bit more because, like, it's still working for me. I'm losing weight. Like, I'm not I'm not drinking, and I'm not having anything bad for me. Like so it is working, but yeah, I just I needed a little extra, taste in my life.
Gavin Tye:Yeah. Fair enough. Well, I'm kind I'm following basically, 1,900 calorie deficit, but when I do do exercise, it does make me more hungry. So I don't wanna, what I wanna do is maintain a 600 calorie deficit a day or 400, 500 calorie deficit a day. So if I do do significant exercise, then I can go up above a little bit, 1,900.
Gavin Tye:That that that's kind of my diet. So we'll see how we go. But then I'm also not having any alcohol or any lollies as well. So I'm gonna stay away from that shit. So
Mitchell Davis:That helps. Yeah. That really helps. So mate, good on us. Check us out, aye?
Mitchell Davis:We're alright.
Gavin Tye:We'll be releasing a six sides nude calendar maybe at the end of Christmas.
Mitchell Davis:Yeah. There you go. There's a goal for the year. Yeah. Yeah.
Mitchell Davis:Yep. Put that in your LinkedIn post if you wanna see that. Alright. Well, that's a perfect spot to wrap up the episode. So where can people find you online?
Gavin Tye:LinkedIn, mate. On LinkedIn. Gavin Ty mainly there. And also in a couple of weeks at AIME, a I m e in Melbourne. So That's it.
Gavin Tye:If you happen
Mitchell Davis:to be going to that or if you're a regular listener and you're based in Melbourne, shoot us a message or something. Love to shake hands and and maybe catch up. That would be awesome. So Yep. Thanks for asking.
Mitchell Davis:You can find me online at Mitch Dev.
Gavin Tye:Oh, yeah. We'll we'll find you, mate.
Mitchell Davis:No. It's I've already told the people now. It's fine. Thanks thanks for for asking, though. Yeah.
Mitchell Davis:And I hope you all have a good week, and we will catch you next week. See you,
Gavin Tye:mate.