Hi. I'm Gavin Tye, sales and marketing six sides. We're currently doing the podcast in my house. That's it. And I
Mitchell Davis:am Mitchell Davis. I'm here in person. I'm a Laravel developer, and we are in Gavin's house. Together, we are building sixsides.co. What is it, mate?
Mitchell Davis:Why don't you tell us what it is?
Gavin Tye:Mate, it's an events platform and a a community building platform where we aim to bring people together.
Mitchell Davis:That's it. You got it. Yeah. I don't know. I think that's our new tagline.
Mitchell Davis:Is
Gavin Tye:it? Yeah.
Mitchell Davis:Well, yeah. So I'm up here in, in Queensland. I'm in, I feel a little traitor y, but this is where our company is is founded on paper. Right?
Gavin Tye:Incorporated.
Mitchell Davis:Well, that yeah. That too.
Gavin Tye:It was founded back in your house, mate. So yeah. That's
Mitchell Davis:right. The office. Anyway, we're getting sidetracked here. We just recorded for like an hour in the car, driving from the airport to your house. And what happened?
Gavin Tye:We had technology fail. Yeah. Absolutely fail. So we're doing a a shorter bridge version because we're running out of time.
Mitchell Davis:We got some commitments that we gotta meet, tonight. So we're leave about twenty minutes. So we'll give you the the cliff note version of, of where everything's at. So why don't you tell us about volunteering WA?
Gavin Tye:So, yeah, we delivered our first conference last week. It was awesome. We had a few, you know, like with any technology route building, like releasing something, there's a couple hiccups, but nothing too serious. Yep. But, it really hit home once we were in the, in the, in the auditorium for the keynote, seeing six sides on these three massive screens.
Gavin Tye:And, it was like, wow, we built that. And, yeah, it was, it was quite a humbling feeling. Then the support that, you know, volunteering WA had given us and even during those two days and, and, you know, it was reciprocal too. So it was a great, it was a great event. And generally people loved it.
Gavin Tye:They love playing the game. They love connecting. They love having memories of it. So yeah, it was a, it was such a good, it was the best conference I've been to as an exhibitor, but I've also, cause I'm a business owner of it. The hypothesis has rang true is that one event has sparked interest in probably four or five other events.
Gavin Tye:Think now that we would have somewhere between seven and nine opportunities that I'm actively pursuing half of 2026 and 2027. And one is massive. One will be a business changer if we were too lucky to get it. You know, that's a long, long way to go, but yeah, it was awesome. Yeah.
Mitchell Davis:That's great. Yeah. And so you had lots of people coming up to you talking about the app and, like, you had you had we had we had one hiccup that was pretty notable for me, which was someone a Jan was her name. Right? You call me and you're like, mate, I got this.
Mitchell Davis:She's this crazy lady who's asking me about
Gavin Tye:She's a fun crazy lady. Yeah. Yeah.
Mitchell Davis:Yeah. All all in good fun. Yep. But she's like, she can't get she can't upload lots of photos that she's taken into the app. Some's not working, and then I try it on my phone, and, like, that was the case.
Mitchell Davis:Uploading multiple photos, only some of them would go through. Yep. And like this, I'd never seen this happen. Like and I've, you know, uploaded lots of photos to the to the app across different events and testing it and everything. Couldn't figure out what's going on.
Mitchell Davis:And then turns out it's a problem with the app on iPhones when you use the built in camera app. It it saves it in this HEIC format, And it's like an apple specific thing. Yep. Turns out I hadn't accounted for that yet. Right.
Mitchell Davis:Somehow that hadn't made its way through
Gavin Tye:to us. Some of them would upload and some wouldn't.
Mitchell Davis:Some, if, if it's a photo taken inside of our app. Yeah. It will work just fine because it it uploads as a JPEG to get pretty technical. It's a different file format. Right?
Mitchell Davis:But then if you use the Apple's camera app
Gavin Tye:Yeah.
Mitchell Davis:Which is gonna be better, like, they've pumped millions of dollars into developing that camera app and making it as good as possible, It uses this other format, and I guess just we've never noticed it before. So yeah. Anyway, so I got a fix for that. I didn't even have to roll out an app update, which was amazing. I could just fix that all myself from the the back end.
Mitchell Davis:So we got that sorted, and then you sent out a notification to everyone because you are pumping those all through, the conference, sending out lots of notifications, and that was great to see. But, yeah, you sent one out saying, hey. Like, bulk upload is working out. And then they instantly, we got, like, a 100 more photos
Gavin Tye:or something. That was getting through. Right? Jen and Esther. And then there was another lady too.
Gavin Tye:And, yeah, they were like, oh, I'm trying. I'm trying. And then all of a sudden it started working. And and
Mitchell Davis:That's it. Just like magic. So yeah. So that was great to see. But, yeah, just really awesome.
Mitchell Davis:I wish I got to go, but it was it was cost prohibitive and we wouldn't have got the ROI with having me there. So, yeah, I'm I'm glad though that we get to spend time together this week. I can see your family and you're gonna come through to LaraCon on Thursday. Right?
Gavin Tye:Well, I can see here, like, just some quick stats. There were 200 people in the app. There were 629 photos uploaded into the platform, which is huge. That's three for every two people.
Mitchell Davis:Well, I think Holly added the professional photos that were taken, but prior to her doing that, there were at least 500 photos. They they crossed the gap. Yeah. So, yeah, that was like very encouraging to see. Yeah.
Mitchell Davis:What else?
Gavin Tye:Can you tell how many people doubt credit a recap of the collage or video?
Mitchell Davis:I can. You can't do Yeah. Do it right now. Yeah. I'll have to get on the laptop.
Mitchell Davis:So I'll report that though next week, and we'll do the same for LaraCon AU because we're gonna kind of do some highlights for
Gavin Tye:next Some interesting use cases come out of it. One person who actually won the game. I'll shout out to, Alison, Amber, sorry. She was saying that, they have a disparate workforce spread out all across the state of, of volunteer of West Australia. And she was saying, I think we could use this too.
Gavin Tye:Cause they all get together periodically during the year. And she goes, there is a divide where people don't mix and she goes, this would actually help people mix. And plus she does a lot of community events. So, I was like, yeah, that's an interesting use case because it is an event. It doesn't matter what the purpose is.
Gavin Tye:It still helps people connect. So yeah, there's a, there's a quite of, quite a lot of opportunity that come out of it. And I was just saying to you in a cart, in our previous recording that has gone into nowhere, that this is when for anyone who's like building a business, it may be technical is once you start getting beyond the amount of opportunities or possible sales that you can handle on one hand, you need a CRM. So we've got somewhere between seven to nine active opportunities. And that, you know, when you put four to five actions on each one of those, that's 40 to 50 things you've got to try to
Mitchell Davis:track it because
Gavin Tye:just can't do it. You can't do it. So this is where we'll start using a CRM now next week, once the dust settles and, we get through, hopefully more things to talk about next week, like other opportunities that we're holding. Not expecting that just because of the type of conference, but yeah, like it's, it was great. It was awesome.
Gavin Tye:And I got to be there for three days and do some other stuff with Deal Buddy, and that was great as well. Yeah. It's some great people. Was yeah. It was really it was great learning.
Mitchell Davis:Yeah. Oh, super cool. And, yeah, I am jealous I didn't get to see it in person, but I'll get to see my side of things, this week. So why don't we talk about that? So I'm up here, one to see you, but the other like, the reason I'm here in this week is because of Lara Connoy.
Mitchell Davis:Right? So that's happening. It'll kick off Wednesday night, tomorrow night. I'm doing a pub trivia thing. So I'm looking forward to catching up with people there.
Mitchell Davis:And then Thursday and Friday, it'll be at QUT.
Gavin Tye:How does it feel doing full circle? Because you did did talk for event kit back in the day like, it was a year. So I'm sure people are gonna ask you Yeah.
Mitchell Davis:How, like Already, like, some someone there's a Telegram chat that Michael has got all the attendees in, and someone was like, wow. I can see Mitch has been busy this year.
Gavin Tye:Yeah. And I was
Mitchell Davis:like gave it a laugh. And I'm like, yeah. You're right. Like, it's it's cool. I hope that it all goes well.
Mitchell Davis:I'm I'm very confident that it will. I feel like we got the ducks in a row. Right? But, yeah, it's really it's great to be able to kind of it's only year one. I think it'll be like even cooler going back, you know, in ten years from now, and hopefully this thing has, you know, grown to very large proportions.
Mitchell Davis:But yeah, it's great already. Like one year that's the one year anniversary, alright, of this getting used.
Gavin Tye:So if you go, like, obviously if, if you look at where you were at event kit to there, like that point in time, it's a massive difference. Right? Oh, well, I feel they're not, I'm not the
Mitchell Davis:one that's in. Yeah. No, it is like the, the fundamentals of the app are largely the same.
Gavin Tye:Mhmm.
Mitchell Davis:We haven't done that much that's been like groundbreaking or like a total departure from where we were before. But now we've identified and you were a huge part of this in the early process of setting this up as a business is like giving it a direction that we're about community building. Because for me, I was thinking like, okay, the tag you're in, like, it's a cool feature, but the main thing it's an event app. Right? It's a schedule.
Mitchell Davis:It's a list of speakers. It's but, no. We're kind of going after the other side of things. It's a community building app that is used at events. Yeah.
Mitchell Davis:You know? So, yeah, it's
Gavin Tye:It's interesting what you just said there. Like a product products on themselves or features on themselves. Don't really, they, they have limited impact, but once you can tie it to a broader outcome, a larger outcome of where, what people are trying to achieve out in the world, then that helps facilitate that. And it's it's a far more power I I think it's a far more powerful
Mitchell Davis:I think so too. And it gives us, like, a unique value proposition. It, makes us different from our competitors who probably don't care about any of that stuff. Right? Like so it's like, it's cool.
Gavin Tye:I think it helps some far more worldly. Yeah.
Mitchell Davis:I'll give you I'll give you that one. That's alright. Yeah. You you've I mean, you're little You bit older than got a few more years. So, you know
Gavin Tye:I hope so.
Mitchell Davis:No. I mean, up your sleeve for me.
Gavin Tye:Yeah. Yeah.
Mitchell Davis:Yeah. Anyway, so look, it's all that's all gone well with volunteering WA. I'm very hopeful that it will go just as well, if not even better, for LaraCon AU. I put a challenge to Michael when I saw that volunteering WA ticked over 500 photos. I said, mate, I want us to do a thousand photos.
Mitchell Davis:I think that's gonna look awesome. And not professional photo taken. I want from the attendees. Yeah. So I'm gonna get in his I've already messaged to him, and he he came back and he's like, well, what do we what do I get if we get a thousand photos?
Mitchell Davis:And I was like, I'll get you a soccer trophy, and I'll write a thousand photos on But
Gavin Tye:More awareness.
Mitchell Davis:Yeah, that's true. It it benefits him. Right? But I want to push him tomorrow when I see him in in person. I wanna push him and go, like, I'm serious about Let's get a thousand photos.
Gavin Tye:But there's a big learning that I learned from volunteering WA, right. Is if you get people registered in the app, and you could spend five minutes getting them to register and tag your it, And then get everyone to take a photo or a couple of photos with the people that they're next to. And then that's the photos and then even get them to download or create a recap and even share it. Yeah. Even just download and I can reshare it later, whatever.
Gavin Tye:Cause that might take a bit longer to write something, but, that whole process in itself probably takes three minutes.
Mitchell Davis:Yeah.
Gavin Tye:It's not that hard and it gets them to start talking to some people, having a laugh. If we get some marketing photos that are happening, that'd be amazing.
Mitchell Davis:Yeah. There were some photos from volunteering WA, which I sent I told you about them. I haven't showed you yet, but there's there are at least two good photos that I saw taken by the photographer. Okay. Which showed people using the app and having a good time taking a selfie.
Mitchell Davis:That's the type of thing that especially when you're there with me in the foyer Yeah. We need to look out for that.
Gavin Tye:Yeah.
Mitchell Davis:Because those photos are compelling for us. Right?
Gavin Tye:Yeah. Well, we should be, we should be taking downloading those out of here and then, and you putting them on socials, on LinkedIn, like that's where, if you see anything like that, I think you should grab it and then, yeah. Put that up straight away. Yeah. Yeah.
Gavin Tye:I I haven't seen them.
Mitchell Davis:So Will do. I'll I'll show you later tonight. But yeah. So anyway, so there's lots of things that are gonna come out of this. While we're here at volunteering WA, we're gonna continue on with some of the street style interviews that you did in Perth.
Mitchell Davis:Yep. You did some of those, found it was a bit hard to do solo. So we're gonna try and tackle some of those together. Yep. And Michael is basically facilitating.
Mitchell Davis:Yep. Like, he's got all the gear set up for us, a nice camera, whatever.
Gavin Tye:So I guess the intention of that is is yes, we're doing sales and lead generation, but there's a whole marketing we're trying to actually there's a marketing process that we want to do. We want to actually plug into, like I interviewed what I interviewed a few different people about some stuff and yeah, a lot of detail there. But you want to try to get those broad interest groups and then go, oh, that's interesting about Qumi. They then come in to indirectly look at six sides and then also promote the other, other like volunteering WA and the people that I spoke to. So, yeah, I think once we can get that nailed and it's going to be a process to get it nailed.
Gavin Tye:I think that'd be really powerful over time. Yeah. Like there's, there's a place, there's a, there's a team on TikTok that do it now. They've got it really zoned in on, and they know how many clicks they get to a lead and stuff. We should, we could get to that.
Gavin Tye:Yeah.
Mitchell Davis:But it's, it's a big lot of events.
Gavin Tye:Yeah. It's a bit hard with founders. Right?
Mitchell Davis:Yeah.
Gavin Tye:Sure. You could actually do you know what?
Mitchell Davis:Here we go. Yeah. Do I need to mute the mic? No.
Gavin Tye:Do I get my idea? Yeah. You could actually get give people to it for free, like, like six sides as a as a discount or something like a smaller meetup, but they've gotta do a couple of street style in, like interviews of the people there and then send them to us and then we can use them. Yeah. So there's lots of different people talking about it.
Mitchell Davis:That's an interesting idea. Yeah. Okay. Well, we'll
Gavin Tye:Make gene genius. I'm you. Yeah. Worldly.
Mitchell Davis:The word genius gets thrown around a lot these days.
Gavin Tye:Mostly by me. Yeah. That's it. I'm hoping it'll pick up. It'll catch on.
Mitchell Davis:Yeah. Eventually, I'll yeah.
Gavin Tye:Worldly. I'll try that.
Mitchell Davis:Worldly. Yeah. Anyway, so look. Really looking forward to seeing everybody that I met last year, meeting some new people. Very excited to get the app back into people's hands and see what they make of all the changes this year.
Mitchell Davis:Already there's been some, like, great discussions in Telegram. Some people have helped me identify, like, little issues and things, which is great. And, yeah, I've been able to resolve a bunch of things. So I've shipped some new functionality to the app. So just gone through, done a bit of a a check over the design of the themes for and how they like all the different spots that we use, the different colors in the theme.
Mitchell Davis:So Michael has this it's a nineties themed like, the event is nineties themed, and so it's like the main color is is bright green. And so
Gavin Tye:It's very disco ish.
Mitchell Davis:Right? Yeah. It all retro maybe? Yeah. Retro
Gavin Tye:disco. Like, thought it'd be eighties or not. Yeah. Maybe nineties. Yeah.
Mitchell Davis:I don't know. But, anyway, like, and it it looks great on his website, but then to translate that into the app was quite difficult. So the first crack that we kinda took at it, I don't think we hit the mark. And so we had these like giant green buttons that were everywhere and it was just really in your face. So last night I went through but before coming up here, went through and I like changed up the design to be something that makes it look not so amateurish with the way we were using his theme.
Mitchell Davis:And so now it looks a lot better. I sent it to him. He's really happy with it. I also rolled out the ability to do check ins. So like when people come up, you know, doors open, go through, scan your ticket, whatever, check you off a list.
Mitchell Davis:So we now have the ability to mark people off as they come through and scan codes, scans barcodes, whatever. You can search for people's names. So we've got that all like buttoned down now. So so I just like add added some more stuff basically. Cut a long story short because we are running low on time.
Mitchell Davis:Yep. Added some new things, check ins, new themes, new notifications, and, yeah, gave the app a bit of a polish. So, yeah, it's looking better than ever. Think I got a over the air update out last night, and that was great. I then put up for review with Apple and Google.
Mitchell Davis:Google got it done in, a few hours. Apple, we still haven't heard anything yet. So we're gonna give that until tomorrow night, Wednesday night. If Apple still hasn't approved it by then, then we'll turn off the setting that, like, automatically publishes it as soon as it's approved so that we're not then dropping an update on people, like, right in the middle of day one when finally they end up approving it. Right?
Mitchell Davis:So yeah. So that's okay. Ultimately, it's the exact same app. It's just baked in. So yeah.
Mitchell Davis:So that's all gone well. We do have to cut it short. What else did we have on our on our list?
Gavin Tye:So we're progressing well, for me on my side, we're just progressing some other, you know, business case stuff. So we're trying to transition from event based pricing to more SaaS subscription and about helping a business or associations over the twelve month period or rolling for, for a few years. So I went through an exercise with a client, a potential client, and it went really well. So, but we'll be able to use reuse the content or the value like over and over again. It's a flywheel of, of content there.
Gavin Tye:But yeah, I think we're in the middle of delivering two events. So we're kind of up in the air with travel last week. Like I didn't get home till early sun Saturday morning and then this week. So next week we'll regroup, come up with a plan, and then, you know, reset the next direction of work that we need to do.
Mitchell Davis:So Yeah. Yeah. I'm looking forward to that. We can report back on how everything went with Lara Con and, yeah, any further conversations that you've had or anything comes out of LaraCon as well. Right?
Mitchell Davis:So Yep. Yeah. It's it's pretty exciting times right now.
Gavin Tye:I'll really keen to hear what feedback you get from people who watched you last year.
Mitchell Davis:Yeah.
Gavin Tye:Yeah. And when you think about it, we've had three paying customers since then, which is okay. I would like to think from these events and going into next year, we may get 20. Yeah.
Mitchell Davis:Yeah. Would be great.
Gavin Tye:And then from 20, then it goes to,
Mitchell Davis:oh, does that make we can't make any promises right now?
Gavin Tye:Exponential growth, but it's
Mitchell Davis:follow along for the journey though. You wanted to be in on the ground had floor.
Gavin Tye:Six sides, but you can see how you get that exponential growth over time. Like it's, it's, it's tough getting momentum. It's everything's a fight. Yeah. Right?
Gavin Tye:But referrals and all that kind of stuff, it's easier, but we just gotta keep fighting the fight.
Mitchell Davis:Yep. That's it. And and we're doing it. So this is like awesome time and it's great to be up here and recording person, finally. So hopefully, we get to do this more.
Gavin Tye:Sure. Oh, and we're actually investigating doing our first conference as exhibitors. So we're gonna go down there. So we're we're going through that. It's a bit of a bit of an expensive price, but we think it'd be worth it on the backside of it, particularly if, by the time it comes up next year, I think it's due next year, our development roadmap would have.
Mitchell Davis:Yeah. We'll have a couple more things.
Gavin Tye:Yeah. Yeah. So it might be appealing to a broader, broader people. So yeah. Yep.
Gavin Tye:And finally, just before we wrap up, shout out to WorldShare over in Cambodia this week. There we've got six sides in a it's our third foreign a third country, Australia Yeah. Denmark, and now, Cambodia. Yeah. So, yeah.
Mitchell Davis:And does Cambodia count as Asia as far as the continent goes, or would they be under us, do you reckon? Because we could say our third continent.
Gavin Tye:I think it's a continent. Yeah. Asia?
Mitchell Davis:They're a part of Asia. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Well, third continent.
Gavin Tye:Okay.
Mitchell Davis:Guys, this is impressive stuff here. It's still the same as three countries, mate.
Gavin Tye:Yep. Well, they could have it, and they could stop off at similar Well, they could. You know? There we go.
Mitchell Davis:We're not gonna tell them not to. So, anyway, so that's really awesome to have simultaneous events for the very first time we had last week, and then we'll have that again because they're they're in Cambodia for Yep. Eight days. Right? So
Gavin Tye:And then we've the second founders collective next week as well. So Yeah. With the new rolled out functionality, we're gonna be very a lot more specific if anyone listened to the last episode or the episode about it, we kind of let the schedule go and we were doing the same as what everyone else did. We're we're far more prescriptive on the schedule and we're to have a far tighter networking timeframe there for people to go out, take photos and ask. We're gonna give them two questions to ask about the talk from Mark Salby.
Gavin Tye:And we're gonna like so people could deliberately go and connect. So yeah.
Mitchell Davis:Smart. Yep. So we can report on that. That'll be two weeks away. Right?
Mitchell Davis:But you I'm sure there'll be more stuff that you can tell us about that next week. Yeah. Yep. Awesome. We are gonna wrap it up now.
Mitchell Davis:Where can people find you, mate?
Gavin Tye:Mate, LinkedIn, Gavin Ty. I've also released a second podcast called The Leap by the Founders Collective. It's a story about founders, the story of them before they were founder that what gave them the courage to take the leap. Yeah. So for anyone who's a new founder or is maybe thinking about a business, it's really to give you some context to say, Hey, you're not alone.
Gavin Tye:Those feelings of apprehension being scared, are there are there for everyone. And they share their stories, about, how they overcame it. And, you know, it's, it's a tough journey. Right. And it just shows that if you just commit to it and get through it and be a bit considered, yeah, I've had two interviews so far and they've both been inspiring.
Gavin Tye:Sorry, Mitch, where did I find you mate? From my kitchen.
Mitchell Davis:I'm glad you asked. Yeah. You can find me in Gavin's kitchen if you've got the address. And, otherwise, you can find me at link at you can find me on LinkedIn at Mitch Dev. Or if you happen to be listening to this this week when it comes out, you can find me at the QUT Gardens Point Theatre apparently Thursday and Friday this week at Lara Connolly.
Mitchell Davis:Yep. Alright. Awesome. Come up and say hi. I'd love to shake your hand and and meet you, if you're listening to the show.
Gavin Tye:Yeah. Alright.
Mitchell Davis:Cool. We will catch you all next week with some hopefully amazing updates from LaraCon AU. Alright. Catch you all
Gavin Tye:then. Bye.