32: Prioritising our roadmap with upcoming events
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32: Prioritising our roadmap with upcoming events

Mitchell Davis:

Hey. I'm Mitchell Davis, a Laravel developer.

Gavin Tye:

I'm Gavin Tye, sales and marketing.

Mitchell Davis:

We are building sixsides.co. It's an events platform that helps you build a stronger community through events. And this is our b to b SaaS journey. How are you, mate?

Gavin Tye:

Good. You got through it. Like, at least threw the intro. Like, you're sicker today than what you were last week. So

Mitchell Davis:

I'm not sure. I think I'm probably even Stevens. Yep. I reckon I was going into it being really rough last time we recorded, and then now I'm coming out of it. But, yeah.

Mitchell Davis:

Oh god. It's been a full on week. I've been at home the whole time. I've slept a lot though surprisingly I could not sleep. I had two I had two shots of coffee and typically I have three in a day, but I hadn't had coffee in ages.

Mitchell Davis:

And because I had been sick and I beat sleeping so much. And then, yeah, I think it was Wednesday. I had two shots of coffee. I couldn't sleep until 4AM. It was so Thursday, yesterday was fucked.

Mitchell Davis:

It was so rough. I was so tired. And yeah. So it's like now I didn't even have a coffee today when I got into the I'm back at the office today, first time in a week. I'm like, no, I can't risk it.

Mitchell Davis:

Like, I'm a bit scared now because I've clearly I've reset my like coffee tolerance. So I'm gonna have to start with like half a shot of coffee and work my way back up.

Gavin Tye:

I'm, I'm like that. When I get sick, the first thing I stop is coffee. I just can't drink it. And then I always, there's nothing more frustrating than not being able to sleep when you're sick. And, yeah, I find when, if you're used to moving around and doing all stuff and then you stop, but you still got all these excess energy that really stops me.

Gavin Tye:

I can feel fro I get so frustrated in the middle and it's such a lonely time in the middle of the night when you can't sleep.

Mitchell Davis:

Yeah. Just laid me. It was like, well, I can't turn the TV on and wake up Nicole or yeah, it's just it's brutal. Anyway, I had a decent sleep last night and I'm back at the office

Gavin Tye:

Struggle is real.

Mitchell Davis:

Cold here.

Gavin Tye:

Struggle is real. Yeah.

Mitchell Davis:

It is. And it's come at like a really bad time. Like, I I was thinking about this because we've got these events coming up soon, and in November we've got volunteering WA and we've got LariCon AU and I'll talk about like progress, in a minute but around being sick, it's hap it's got me worried of like because if this had have happened right at the time that, you know, in the week before LariCon AU, I might not have even been able to go. And I'm going as an attendee for those that don't know. I'm going as an attendee because the LariCon people are my crowd.

Mitchell Davis:

Yep. And, yeah, it's like this is if this had happened a month later, maybe a month and a bit later, like, this is this is brutal. I would have missed out. You know? It wouldn't have been any point in me going.

Mitchell Davis:

So, yeah, it's I did really well to dodge, like, being sick sick all through winter, and then this has just got me on the on the tail end.

Gavin Tye:

So

Mitchell Davis:

Yeah. Anyway, it's not COVID. I did a test, so that's good. And then I'm gonna get a puffer. What do they call it?

Mitchell Davis:

Ventolin, I think it is. Yep. Good to get one of those today. Apparently, you can just go get them at the chemist, and that'll help me because when I was a kid, had viral asthma, I think it is. I had pneumonia.

Mitchell Davis:

I had all sorts of shit when I was younger.

Gavin Tye:

I could see you being that type of kid.

Mitchell Davis:

Oh, piss off. That's that's bullying. You're mean.

Gavin Tye:

It's observing. It's observing.

Mitchell Davis:

Yeah. And so I was talking with my mom yesterday. She's like, yeah, go go get a puffer because, like, I feel like my lungs are at, 50% capacity right now Yeah. Where I it's just like shallow breathing and it just sucks. It's like it takes it out of you to be doing that much extra breathing.

Mitchell Davis:

So, anyway, health issues aside, I'm I'm alright. I'm all good. What's been going on with you?

Gavin Tye:

Well, this week I've been looking at, I've had lots of things going on in different parts of my world. So, I've started building our community driven newsletter. Like it's starting looking at building our community now for for six sides. And so, yeah, we're about to start a, a newsletter on Substack. Right.

Gavin Tye:

And it's actually called, events into growth, growing your community, achieving your purpose. And it'd be around, you know, it's it's kind of broad to talk about associations, event organizers, but also sponsors potentially, about how they might achieve their purpose or what they're trying to achieve in their business as well. So, yeah, I'm getting that together. It's, a work in progress. I'm modeling some other, newsletters I'm seeing on different, like on, on Substack that I follow.

Gavin Tye:

So yeah, it's a slow but progressive journey that I'm going on now. So, and then from that, I'm going to, I've got a webinar series that I'm building out to start adding value to that community as well, to our potential buyers and all that kind of stuff. So I've got a list of that. I've I've signed up for StreamYard, which is a webinar tool, which is it's actually really our intention of what we're trying to achieve with our businesses, Mitch, I think have we spoken about this before is try to get alignment in some software so we can get a co like, is it economies of scale or whatever it is? And so with, with StreamYard in particular, I was able to go in there yesterday, build a studio out for deal buddy, and then I'll build a studio out for six sides.

Gavin Tye:

Right? So it reduces cuts the cost in half. So it's actually really, really handy there. So yep. Yeah.

Gavin Tye:

It looks looks pretty

Mitchell Davis:

good in there. Awesome. Okay. When are you thinking you'll have your first webinar for one of the six sites?

Gavin Tye:

Yeah. So I wanna get the newsletter up and running so I can promote it on the newsletter. I'll have it all set up. You wanna set it for about three or four weeks out because there's a lot of, if you just set the webinar and don't do any work and actually trying to get people there, it's just not going to work. Right.

Gavin Tye:

So I want to actually set the webinar, do a couple of posts that we can put out on LinkedIn, both of us. And then we are using meet Alfred to connect with our deal target market. Market. Then I use another platform to do some outreach into our ideal target market there. So I need, but I need that webinar set up and then I could do all the work to the webinar.

Gavin Tye:

Maybe four weeks.

Mitchell Davis:

That makes sense. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Cool.

Mitchell Davis:

So that'll be right before volunteering WA then.

Gavin Tye:

I'll have to figure out, make sure that doesn't clash. Yeah.

Mitchell Davis:

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Cause you're traveling over there to Perth, right?

Gavin Tye:

I have. I just, you book way more than what quicker than I do. I always hadn't even thought about it. I'll I'll look at it. Because I'm on my list as we can.

Mitchell Davis:

I still haven't booked to Larracan AU and to come up and see you as well. So, I've gotta sort it out. So, it's fine. I got Chris sorted who works with me at Atlas. He's all sorted done and dusted and paid.

Mitchell Davis:

But, yeah, I, I haven't got on it yet.

Gavin Tye:

Yeah. Okay.

Mitchell Davis:

Yep. It's funny when I was a speaker last year with Michael, I reckon I was probably the last one to, like, get all all the ducks in a row. I'm just really slow with that stuff for whatever reason. So he had to chase me up a bunch. Yep.

Mitchell Davis:

Anyway.

Gavin Tye:

Yeah. Okay.

Mitchell Davis:

Yeah. Cool, mate. Well, that's very exciting.

Gavin Tye:

Yeah. I don't need you there. Like if you want to be there and watch, or you want to be there as just like to make yourself known to people there, that's up to you, but everything I'm doing doesn't, it won't involve you. There's no requirement on you unless we're talking about tech stacks and certain things. Yeah.

Gavin Tye:

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So that's great. It's my, this is my area.

Gavin Tye:

So yeah, talk

Mitchell Davis:

about I love stuff that doesn't involve me. More of that. Let's do that. Sounds great.

Gavin Tye:

Fair enough. Yeah. So that that's been good. Last week, I've all like, I went and we spoke about Inductive, the accelerator that we're looking at. I went and had a lunch with them on Friday afternoon, and that was really good.

Gavin Tye:

Got to meet a like, lot of people around Brisbane that are all in a similar position to us. Some are a little bit further ahead. Some are a little bit further behind. So, I, there was the first meeting this week, but I can't, I had things on. I could couldn't move my schedule around in time.

Gavin Tye:

So, yeah, we'll kick that off. That's kicked off now.

Mitchell Davis:

So is that gonna start for you next week then?

Gavin Tye:

Yeah. Next Tuesday, I think is the first one, I think next Tuesday. I think it goes Tuesday, Wednesday, Tuesday morning, Wednesday afternoon.

Mitchell Davis:

Yep. And then the deep dives, right. Which is kind of the one on ones. Yeah. Also start next week.

Gavin Tye:

There's something that I'm missing. So you, I must have to watch that video that I sent you the long one. Cause I didn't watch it all. Cause I spoke to Peter. He does he outlay the how the program works, the deep dives and

Mitchell Davis:

stuff? Yeah.

Gavin Tye:

Yeah. Yeah.

Mitchell Davis:

Yeah. So he says, it's like a opening sorry. I don't know. Opening or closing. I'm not quite sure which one, but it's basically like a Tuesday morning meeting.

Mitchell Davis:

Yeah. Then somewhere between Tuesday and Wednesday, Arvo, you have a one on one, which he calls a deep dive. Yep. And that's where you would have the whole team on that call.

Gavin Tye:

Okay.

Mitchell Davis:

And then on Wednesday, Arvo, like a closing for closing the week call or something like that. I might

Gavin Tye:

have got that wrong. But

Mitchell Davis:

the the Tuesday and the Wednesday ones are like that could just be you or maybe I come along to those, but I'm not expected to. Yep. And then, the deep dive one on ones, that's where I would come along or, you know, the whole team.

Gavin Tye:

Sure. It might make sense to come along to the first one that so people can say, oh, look, we're starting it together and then you drop out.

Mitchell Davis:

Yep. Yep. That could work.

Gavin Tye:

Yeah. Otherwise it might be funny when you come in later and I don't know who you are. Right? So, yep. Anyway, so may maybe that makes sense.

Gavin Tye:

I'll send it through to you. And we can have a chat about that offline. Right?

Mitchell Davis:

So Yeah. Yeah. Yep. Sure. But it sounds good.

Mitchell Davis:

Cool. Okay. So it sounds like a good meeting then. You met some good people there.

Gavin Tye:

Yeah. Like, I know lots of them around, but on you know you know, if you've been in the ecosystem for a while, you know who they are. Right. But it was just some of them I've like could be potential for, deal buddy. Some could be for six sites.

Gavin Tye:

Some actual people come up to me and said, excuse me, are you Gavin Ty? And I was like, yes. Because I'm so sorry we couldn't come to the founders collective like we wanted to. And I was like, oh yeah, amazing. And, yeah.

Gavin Tye:

That's nice. Yeah. Was good. Yeah.

Mitchell Davis:

Yeah. Cool, mate. You building a name for yourself? Check you out?

Gavin Tye:

Think I'm kind of a big deal.

Mitchell Davis:

That's what think. So.

Gavin Tye:

Yeah. That that that's what I tell to kids kids all the time. Dad's a big deal. And and Harper's like, no, you're not dad. Yeah.

Mitchell Davis:

It's about time the, the community recognize you for what you are, mate.

Gavin Tye:

If anyone wants to nominate me for an award.

Mitchell Davis:

Gavin Ty, big deal.

Gavin Tye:

Very good. Or, you know, just tell me how big of a deal I am. Just send it into journey at six sides. That'd be great. We won't, we won't read it out.

Gavin Tye:

Yep. So, yeah. Anyway, so I've got some, I've got a webinar topic. My first webinar topic here, engaging your community year round is probably the first one, Beyond beyond a single event, or how to add value to each side of your community. I've got five here as a, as a, over five months.

Gavin Tye:

And so we'll create a structure, out of that, like a lead gen campaign for each one for each month. That's predictable. Right? Yeah. Yeah.

Gavin Tye:

Yeah. So Cool. Yeah. We'll see how it goes.

Mitchell Davis:

It's exciting. Very exciting, mate. Alright. Well

Gavin Tye:

You what have you been doing, mate?

Mitchell Davis:

I've been sleeping a lot. There hasn't been a lot of productive work, to be honest. Like, this has really knocked me around.

Gavin Tye:

Yep.

Mitchell Davis:

So, the work that I have done, I've made a start on the, this Android SDK upgrade that we've got to do. Yep. It's a start. It is not finished yet. So I've gone through and started doing some updates to the packages that we're using.

Mitchell Davis:

The it's like fairly involved. And then once I've got that done, which I I plan to make some progress on it today, once I've got that done, then I'll be testing on an Android phone, making sure it's working. Next week, I'll ask Chris to, kinda double check on some of his Android devices as well. So once that's done, then it is a rush to get as many features, new features completed for volunteering WA and for LaraCon AU. Some of the big ones that we're going after are, the ability to, create meetings between people.

Gavin Tye:

Mhmm.

Mitchell Davis:

So we're gonna facilitate that for volunteering WA. I don't believe Michael wants it at LaraCon AU, so I'm not too worried about that there. But, I mean, it's once the feature's built, it's, you know, it's gonna work just fine anywhere, that wants it.

Gavin Tye:

But Yep.

Mitchell Davis:

Yeah. So that's the main one. Plus then there's a bunch of other smaller things that we've kinda talked with them about, that we're looking to build. So as we record, we're we're two weeks till we get to that, tools down date where we've gotta have the final submission in for, App Store and Play Store review. Just pulling up my calendar.

Mitchell Davis:

So that is on the October 17. That's the date that we said, okay. That's three weeks out from volunteering WA and four weeks from LariCon. So, yeah, so I've got two weeks, which is not anywhere near as long as what I wanted. I wanted to be at this point right now two weeks ago, but just being sick is being brutal.

Mitchell Davis:

Yep. So, anyway, I'm on I'm on the other side of being sick. It is now time to make meaningful progress on this and I will be I'll be taking my computer home with me and getting set up to get some work done over the weekend. It's a long weekend for us as well which is cool. So I don't have any plans other than on Sunday.

Mitchell Davis:

So, I'll have Saturday and Monday to really smash through some progress here.

Gavin Tye:

Sure. So we also we need a couple of things from volunteering WA, the amount of tables and the amount of slots. Right? So we can actually configure that. Yep.

Gavin Tye:

Then will we get the chance to do they'll review the meeting and give it a star rating as well and then maybe make a note, like for the sponsors and stuff that

Mitchell Davis:

So those are yeah. Those are the things that we're gonna have. So, yes, meetings is kind of the big new feature that we will have the ability to record notes, and kind of attach them against, a particular meeting or a particular person. Yep. And notes will be kind of like a private note for yourself.

Mitchell Davis:

It won't be shared. Yep. We'll have the five star rating system available in a few different spots, so we might do that. Definitely, we're gonna do it against meetings Yep. To say, okay.

Mitchell Davis:

What was the quality of this meeting? But then also, like, for leads, for sponsors. Yep. So they can go tag, k, how hot was this lead? And you've talked about that a bunch.

Mitchell Davis:

And but what I was also thinking was maybe we could add it against photos in the gallery, and that could be how we could facilitate the kind of a rating system and, like, the most highly awarded photos, maybe that contributes towards a prize and things like that.

Gavin Tye:

Yeah. So they they are going to do, I believe they're gonna do the artistic or the candid photos to get marketing stuff and give prizes out. So that might go in from there. Right? Like Yeah.

Gavin Tye:

How to present that back is a different catalog.

Mitchell Davis:

Yeah. That's right. And it's only two weeks. Right? So I don't know if we'll be able to do to deliver a really solid rating system for them in that timeline that we've got.

Mitchell Davis:

We are behind the curve, and it's just force of nature that I've been sick. Yep. Yep. But, they could still run that competition themselves and just look at, okay, look at all the photos and decide which ones they like the most, you know. They Yeah.

Mitchell Davis:

Yeah. Yeah. So we're not stopping them from from doing what they wanna do. We could just make it a little easier if we can do this. Sure.

Mitchell Davis:

So, in addition to that, last week we talked to, I don't know if you're revealing names, but we spoke with a UI and UX agency.

Gavin Tye:

Yep.

Mitchell Davis:

So maybe you wanna walk us through what we did, and then I'll tie it back in.

Gavin Tye:

Yeah. So I I know Carmen and Rhett through, my other business as well. So they come on board and they're a young startup, like, you know, they're pre revenue. So we did a kind of a trade of service. So I gave them a heavy discount on, on deal buddy.

Gavin Tye:

And, so they offered to give us some UI UX device, advice on six sides. So we cashed that in. We started cashing that in last week. So they come through, give us some high level. Well, they haven't given a high level advice.

Gavin Tye:

We kind of scoped out what we were going to, what they're going to deliver us. So we'll see. We haven't heard, I know you went back to them yesterday. We haven't heard back from them since. So we're probably, we're not due to talk till next Thursday.

Mitchell Davis:

Thursday.

Gavin Tye:

Yeah. But I'm excited to see what they may come up with. It just, maybe we don't have enough time to do it this conference. Right. But we'll have it in our back pocket that once it's done, then then you can go, from now until Christmas, then we have enough time to make it pretty for 2020.

Mitchell Davis:

Exactly. Yeah. That's right. So tying it back in, the hope is that there will be enough time to make whatever tweaks they might suggest. But it just might not be possible with all the other things going on so, that's okay.

Mitchell Davis:

We're not like, we're not on the hook for any new like UI style or whatever, with these two events coming up so that's okay. But it'll be great if we can. It might also be a bit of a risk, to make too many changes

Gavin Tye:

We haven't we haven't promised this to anyone, so I don't think

Mitchell Davis:

we need

Gavin Tye:

there's no we're on no deadline. So if we're not comfortable with it, I just don't think you're going have the time Mitch, to be honest, because yeah, I agree. Because we still, once we get to that three week, two week mark, then there's still changing some stuff around inside the app that like with the Tag Your Writ game and things like that, right. That with the learnings we learnt from the founders collective that can still be done after the fact. Right.

Gavin Tye:

So, I just don't, I just don't think that. Yeah. I don't see it. I don't see it either. Yeah.

Gavin Tye:

Yeah. I I absolutely don't see it. So, but it's a great thing to have by the end of the year, and we're always showing progress. Right? We're always iterating and, yeah.

Gavin Tye:

Yeah.

Mitchell Davis:

Yep. Yeah. So, that's exciting. Hopefully, there's no more sickness or anything else that comes up to kinda get in the way here. We've got to have these things done, in in let's say our self imposed deadline of two weeks, but, we really wanna meet that, the seventeenth.

Mitchell Davis:

So when we do our next not next recording, but the one after Yep. We will be, tools down on the system until, yeah, another what will that be? Two three four four weeks after that episode. That will be when LaraCon AU has finished on the November 14.

Gavin Tye:

So Are they first they first or second? Their first what's first? Volunteering WA?

Mitchell Davis:

It is Volunteering.

Gavin Tye:

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Mitchell Davis:

Yeah. Yeah. In that November on the sixth and seventh. Yep. And then Lara ConAU so the Thursday, Friday.

Mitchell Davis:

And then Lara Con AU is just one week later, thirteenth There's and

Gavin Tye:

a couple of things I need to get ready for, before there as well. I wanna get a pull up banner of six sites. Right? So when we take it there, it's there. Yep.

Gavin Tye:

I wanna get just get a lot I gotta get some stuff in ducks in a row there, prepared for for volunteering WA. And then he who knows? You could even take that through to LariCon. Right? Just pop it up.

Gavin Tye:

Right? Yeah. There's a got a question about the app? Ask Mitch. Right?

Gavin Tye:

So yeah.

Mitchell Davis:

Yeah. That's right. Yeah. I'm gonna have to be on support duty again. Yeah.

Mitchell Davis:

We tried to I never look forward to. It always sucks because the people that come up to you always have a problem. You know? It's almost never like, hey. Great job on the app.

Mitchell Davis:

Nothing is broken. It's perfect. They're coming to you to talk to you about the problem that they're having. So that's always like just that's not even just with, six sides, but any other things that I've built that have been kind of out in the world before, you always only ever hear about the bad stuff. But it's not true.

Mitchell Davis:

Last year at LaraCon AU when we kinda kicked all this off, I had plenty of people that came up and just like, yeah. Wow. This is awesome. So Yeah. I think not always true.

Gavin Tye:

I think that'll change. Like, people wanna say, come up to you from last year and wanna say, hey. Look. It looks amazing. You've done a lot of I don't think that's people will be invested in your journey.

Gavin Tye:

I will come up for the first period of time for LaraCon and help. And, but I just won't stay there all day. That's all.

Mitchell Davis:

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It doesn't serve you being there that whole time.

Gavin Tye:

So Yep.

Mitchell Davis:

Yep. Yeah. Cool.

Gavin Tye:

Made we've made I can't believe it. We're so like, when we first spoke to LaraCon and volunteering WA, it was in like March. Now all of a sudden we're almost here. I was like, holy shit. That's actually, it snuck up on us a bit.

Gavin Tye:

So

Mitchell Davis:

It's scary. Yeah. It's like lose track of time. It's really cool, though, having this podcast as like, well, we have been doing this for thirty two weeks straight. Like, that's a number you can count and go back and say, okay, that was in March.

Mitchell Davis:

And we first kicked that off like so this is a good way to kind of keep track of time, but yeah, I'm with you. It feels like, wow, where did all that time go? This these events coming up were, like, felt so far away on the calendar, and now they're here. And it's not like we're not ready for them. Like, we've got a really solid system.

Mitchell Davis:

It's it's not I'm not saying it for that reason, but just yeah. You're right. It's crazy.

Gavin Tye:

What are we gonna do over the Christmas break? Are we gonna shut the podcast down for a couple of weeks? Like, what's what do you think that we should do there?

Mitchell Davis:

I think we could probably maybe if we did, like, a two hour recording session at the December Okay. Somewhere around there.

Gavin Tye:

Okay.

Mitchell Davis:

And then we just kinda split it up into, four episodes or something. Okay. Like, half an hour episodes. I think that's fine because yeah. Are are you going away?

Mitchell Davis:

Yep. Over yeah. Perfect. So you'll be you'll be out of action. And I don't really wanna think about it either.

Mitchell Davis:

I really like being able to just relax.

Gavin Tye:

Oh, no. I'm not saying record over the holiday period. I don't wanna do that. But do we like, what would people I think people switch off over over the Christmas break. Right?

Gavin Tye:

They don't necessarily wanna if we talk about what we're building, there's gonna be no progress for, like, two weeks. Right? So

Mitchell Davis:

I disagree. I think, like, you're in the car. Think about what happens when you're in in that holiday period.

Gavin Tye:

Right?

Mitchell Davis:

Like, you're in the car a fair bit driving to Christmases and get togethers with friends and stuff. Like, that's perfect opportunity to still listen to a podcast. Sure. And I think if we do just prepare for it and have like a bunch of things ready to go in December, then we could, we'll have to figure out when you're going away, and I don't think we're going away, this year. So, yeah, we'll just figure out the dates, and then I reckon we could just do a big recording session and split it up.

Gavin Tye:

We could fine. Yeah. We could do have because we wanna get Holly on the podcast from volunteering WA. Right? And we could Yep.

Gavin Tye:

There's some other people potentially who could be clients beforehand as well.

Mitchell Davis:

Could have Holly on the Christmas episode. Holly. Holly. Yeah. There you go.

Gavin Tye:

We could have the the Holly Christmases. There's a there's a

Mitchell Davis:

We could get all the Hollies. Yeah. All the, all three that we've been dealing with all year. There's there's various Holly's that we're dealing with.

Gavin Tye:

There's a couple here. There's a couple on, but we could, we could break that up a little bit to make it a little bit more lighthearted, not lighthearted, but not as product, cause we're not going to make a lot of progress over the Christmas break. So maybe we could think about that and stack it. And I know Holly listens. So if you are listening, Holly, us deliver, us deliver.

Gavin Tye:

Yeah. A journey at 06:00.

Mitchell Davis:

Let

Gavin Tye:

us, so after we have volunteering WA, maybe we can get her on a podcast and then, talk through about how the conference was and stuff like that. Yeah. I've got some

Mitchell Davis:

We can do the same for Michael as well.

Gavin Tye:

Yeah. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. I'm sure he'd

Mitchell Davis:

be happy to get get back on, and chat through about what worked, maybe what didn't. Get some real feedback. So yeah.

Gavin Tye:

Yeah. We can go from there. And then I think maybe we can stack that up over a couple of weeks because people might be interested in that. Like, was also thinking on a side note, like we're talking about our journey as six sides. Right.

Gavin Tye:

And now it's what we're building at Outer B2B SaaS podcast while I'm putting this newsletter together about growing events into growth. I thought about doing another podcast about interviewing community leaders and how they go about growing their community. Right? Like how does Sir Vincent de Paul do it? How does the salvation army do it?

Gavin Tye:

Like how did Ronald McDonald house do it? To try to, to create our own community there as well. So, yeah. Yeah. I thought that might

Mitchell Davis:

be Would that be under the six sides banner or is that yeah?

Gavin Tye:

Yep.

Mitchell Davis:

Like that. I Okay. Like the sound of that, but it would be a different feed. Right? It wouldn't be on this podcast.

Gavin Tye:

No, no, no. It's for community leader, like community leaders or community associations trying to grow their community. It would be a lead gen tool. It would, it would, it would getting our name in front of these people that we ideally would like to work with in time, but first and foremost, helping the community and bringing, bringing, I've got about six different ideas for great podcasts. Some fun ones, some, some not so fun ones, some, some personal ones, mate.

Gavin Tye:

Could, yeah, I could be a podcast host for this could be my full time job.

Mitchell Davis:

We just gotta it's gotta make enough money to justify it. Yeah. But, yeah, that's cool. I I really like the idea of that.

Gavin Tye:

Yeah. I've got two other podcasts that aren't work related. You wanna hear them? Sure. Let's do it.

Gavin Tye:

One is called opinions, like have four or five mates in a room that you look at world events and everyone has an opinion. Right? And then they and that just kicks off, you know,

Mitchell Davis:

a good Yeah.

Gavin Tye:

Yeah. Yeah. And my other one is called crossroads. Like interview people who had a crossroads in their life and they went they went a different way and how life has changed for them and stuff like that. Yeah.

Gavin Tye:

Right.

Mitchell Davis:

Yeah. Okay. I like the sound of that too.

Gavin Tye:

Yeah. I know.

Mitchell Davis:

You can find yourself in trouble with the first one, I think. But,

Gavin Tye:

Well, I think the first one would be fun. You'd do it. Like, it'd be great having it. It would be. I've stopped drinking now.

Gavin Tye:

So that's, it would be fun having a couple of beers and, and getting onto piss and just yelling at each other. I think that would be fun. So

Mitchell Davis:

Oh, for sure.

Gavin Tye:

Yeah. Yeah. But anyway, anyone wants to pick them up, go for it. So all of our, all of our listeners.

Mitchell Davis:

Yep. Yep. Alright. You hand you're you're handing it over to people if they wanna

Gavin Tye:

Nah, no. People would

Mitchell Davis:

Don't steal.

Gavin Tye:

No. It's effort. Yeah. Yeah. That's right.

Mitchell Davis:

Yep. No. I think your your first idea of interviewing community leaders, I think that's really cool. So, yeah, I would love to see that come to fruition. That would be awesome.

Gavin Tye:

Well,

Mitchell Davis:

if you need help getting that set up, let me know. Send me an email, mate. [email protected].

Gavin Tye:

And produced? That would be great.

Mitchell Davis:

Yeah. So I can like, it doesn't. It honestly doesn't take much effort.

Gavin Tye:

Okay.

Mitchell Davis:

So, yeah, I could do that at least for the first one or two and maybe hand that over to you to show you exactly how I do it, or maybe I just keep doing it. But, yeah, like I this is a valuable marketing output that we could do. So, yes, I am happy to help you with it.

Gavin Tye:

Maybe we can train Mella. Yeah. Give give her a new stream. Sure.

Mitchell Davis:

If she's spilling.

Gavin Tye:

We'll see how she goes. She's doesn't it? Yeah. But what yeah.

Mitchell Davis:

Anyway really is honestly, the way that I edit this show, I'm gonna do it right after we finish this recording. It'll be done within about fifteen minutes. Yeah. Right. Very close.

Mitchell Davis:

It's not that narrow. Easy in Riverside, so it's not a time suck. Yep. And sounds great. You know?

Mitchell Davis:

Well, I think, you know, sounds great. So Okay. Alright. Let's do it. Cool.

Mitchell Davis:

Sounds good. Alright. Well, I got an update for you from Michael, who's making pro Michael Dorinda who's making progress on the dashboard for us. So he's go back to episode 30, end of episode 30 where I kind of introduced this. So he's volunteering some of his time for us, which is amazing and we're very appreciative.

Mitchell Davis:

So, he sent me through, some tweaks that he'd made to the dashboard because he he'd got in there and he'd started to work on the ability to create a new event through the dashboard. Yep. And, yeah, he got all the code done for it. So now you can go create an event. You specify under, like, which team it belongs to.

Mitchell Davis:

So in his case, it's like LaraCon AU. And then, yeah, fill in, name of the event. You can, you set, like, time zone and some of the other, like, basic things that we have to do for creating an event manually for now. Yep. And then you can add days and so like your day one, day two, day three and so on.

Mitchell Davis:

And, yeah, I could see like from the time stamps, you did this over just a couple of hours of work. Looks great. So it was it was awesome. It's cool seeing his code and the way that he writes it. We do we talked about last week, like, we've got different styles, different approaches on things, but, like, all in all, it's still writing in the same languages.

Mitchell Davis:

It's all fine.

Gavin Tye:

What's the difference between, say, your code and his like, for the because I don't know what you're saying here. So

Mitchell Davis:

It's really hard to the for me to tell you what the differences are is not gonna be easy when if I can't get really technical, and then it won't we'll lose.

Gavin Tye:

Is it like slang opposed to formal language? Like

Mitchell Davis:

No. No. No. It's kinda just like there's lots of different ways you can go about doing things when you're writing code or, like, working on anything. You know?

Mitchell Davis:

Like, god, it's really I struggle to come up with, like, concepts in the in the moment, but, there's lots of different ways to achieve this goal of, let's say, creating an event in the system. Right? You could do it a bunch of different ways and, he has chosen it to to implement it in this one way, which he's really familiar with and I am not as familiar with but still have some familiarity, so it's not totally foreign. And I could see the rationale for why he's done it this way. And so, I might have implemented it a different way.

Mitchell Davis:

He's done it this way. Totally works. Like, it's all good. I'm not gonna so like I'm now gonna go in and change it and go, no, no. Has to be done this way.

Mitchell Davis:

No. No. It's fine. It's great. So it's cool for me to get to see how some other people do things because in agency land, like what we're doing in my day job at Atlas, it's like typically we're writing projects for people and they then might take it over and we don't see it again.

Mitchell Davis:

Yeah. Right. You know? So we don't often get to work in with existing code, and like ongoing developed code, we don't often get to see that. So, this is really cool.

Mitchell Davis:

Yeah. Some get some fresh perspectives on things. So

Gavin Tye:

Yep. Okay. Awesome.

Mitchell Davis:

Anyway, so thank you, Michael. Thank you, Michael. You keep making progress. But, again, you're not on the hook as you reminded me in the in our last conversation. You are by no means on the hook, but we appreciate it.

Mitchell Davis:

Cool, mate. Alright. Anything else you want to add?

Gavin Tye:

Oh, I've been I entered into a trial running series on the weekend. Like, I've been started running again since my knee, I think. Was my knee hurt when we were started it must have been. Because it's thirty one weeks ago. I was in I would've had my knee done.

Gavin Tye:

So my knees come almost back to to to not perfect. There's a little bit of niggle there, but there's a there's a trial running series that goes around here in Queensland for the summer. Like there's eight rounds and I've always wanted to do it. And now I'm I've been running. I did 10 Ks again this morning.

Gavin Tye:

I only do 10 Ks every Friday morning and slowly getting better and better, like, like more feeling better and better about doing it, but it's tough. It's getting hotter as well, which doesn't make it easy. Yeah. Yeah. So I signed in this trail running, trail running race on Sunday morning.

Gavin Tye:

Like it's eight Ks. Should be a bit of a bit of a fun, fun effort. Good on

Mitchell Davis:

you. Yeah. That's awesome. Yep. Yeah.

Mitchell Davis:

Cool. Okay. So what makes trail running? Is that on a, on a mountain, on a hill?

Gavin Tye:

Yeah. It's not on the road. Yeah. So in it, but there's a lot, it's not necessarily flat. There's a lot of incline.

Gavin Tye:

I'd say going up and down hills. That's the worst part. Yeah. Yeah.

Mitchell Davis:

So do you have much experience with doing trail versus no? Okay.

Gavin Tye:

No, no. I've done a, I've done a couple of big walks and I do some, I've done some trail running before. I remember we signed up for a 25 k trail run. I thought that'd be easy. My God.

Gavin Tye:

That'd be easy. Yeah. Yeah. We were training. We were training, but the elevation really didn't get you.

Gavin Tye:

So brutal. Yeah. So we'll see how we go.

Mitchell Davis:

Yeah. Okay. So is that you said you signed up for it on Sunday or when is it?

Gavin Tye:

This Sunday. So I signed up for it on Sunday. Yeah. Cool. Completely undercooked.

Gavin Tye:

I can run that distance, but we'll just see there's no time expectation. So Yeah. Yeah. I'm gonna try and do every every of the eight races over the course of the summer.

Mitchell Davis:

So Hey. That's awesome.

Gavin Tye:

Here we go.

Mitchell Davis:

Yeah. It does get hot up there. I was talking with a mate about he he went up to Brisbane on the weekend, I think, for a concert or something like that. He's like, oh, it's beautiful up here. I could see myself living up here.

Mitchell Davis:

And I was like, yeah, it is. It's beautiful up there, but it's also gets bloody hot during summer.

Gavin Tye:

It's also October.

Mitchell Davis:

Yeah. Yeah. That's right. It's only yeah. It's we're nowhere near it yet.

Mitchell Davis:

I remember last year because LaraCon last year was in Brisbane and, god, it was hot. So I was thinking like, how do you do this year round? I know you're not in Brisbane. Right? You're closest to the Gold Coast.

Mitchell Davis:

But It's still the same. Yeah. Yeah. Similar climate.

Gavin Tye:

When I first come up from Sydney, I used to sweat a lot. And then I went and worked in Gladstone, in a smelter and the smelter in summer is you can only work for thirty minutes at a time on the floor. You get so hot. But what happened there was they do say when you start at a job like that, you sweat different salt and you, that's why like you sweat a lot of salt and you can't do it for very long because you lose that, all that in your body, but your body acclimatizes over time and it doesn't, and holds onto the salt. So what's ended up happening for me is, I think since that time in Gladstone, yes, it's hot.

Gavin Tye:

Like of course it's hot, but it's nowhere near, the heat that I was up in Gladstone. I'm like, I use that as a reference point. So yes, it's hot. I, but Mel, Mel can't handle the heat. She has not acclimatized and doesn't have exercise in the heat.

Gavin Tye:

She, she will overheat herself and hurt herself Like, yeah, but yeah, I'm a bit more aware of it. So, yeah. You just

Mitchell Davis:

built different mate. Don't you? Mate. On the back to you.

Gavin Tye:

Thank again, again, a talented anyone must say, I don't know what award, what award.

Mitchell Davis:

Yeah. You're the big deal.

Gavin Tye:

That's right.

Mitchell Davis:

Am. Oh, you're the big deal.

Gavin Tye:

Wait. Tell my kids.

Mitchell Davis:

Yeah. Yeah. Tell them when I, when I see them in a month.

Gavin Tye:

I did that in a car with you the other day. Right? Like you were saying that to the kids. Yeah. But I've

Mitchell Davis:

said- A bit of fun.

Gavin Tye:

I've just dropped a heap of weight too, I'm still dropping all the weight and I've got my little sand, my salt buckets every day. After this, I'm gonna go out and take out 800, 800 grams.

Mitchell Davis:

So Good on you.

Gavin Tye:

Yeah. Yeah. Very good. There we go.

Mitchell Davis:

You do that once a week or is that?

Gavin Tye:

Yeah. Or when the scales are favorable. Yep.

Mitchell Davis:

Yeah. Right. Yeah. And never when they're not. Oh, I didn't see that.

Mitchell Davis:

I didn't see that.

Gavin Tye:

No, no, no. But I've also stopped drinking. So I, like I wear the whoop all the time and now it's really starting to pay, pay dividends. Like I can see, like it's really helping and yeah. So anyway,

Mitchell Davis:

looking good, mate. We'll see. Keep it up. That's good. Fantastic.

Gavin Tye:

Another 15 kilos, mate. I'll probably won't talk to you. I'll be like, I'll forget everyone that I was talking to before when I was fat Gav. Yeah. The fat guy,

Mitchell Davis:

skinny guy model brand new.

Gavin Tye:

Yeah. Yeah. That's right. As is to be. Yeah.

Gavin Tye:

Yeah. We got a big week this week in development. I'm getting ready

Mitchell Davis:

for Starting today.

Gavin Tye:

Yep. Yeah. Okay.

Mitchell Davis:

So, yep. Got, really gotta smash through and get this Android stuff done first, and then, we will prioritize a list of, okay, what do we need to have versus what would be great to have. Yep. We might do that on well, we won't catch up on Monday. Right?

Mitchell Davis:

So maybe we'll do that on Tuesday because I'll have the Android thing done by then. No doubt. And, yeah, just smash through, hopefully hear about the design stuff, and then see if there's any time for us to make changes for that, but probably not. And

Gavin Tye:

we'll go from there. Yeah. I I just don't think you put too much on your plate. Right? You've you're already you've been sick this week, so we've lost a week.

Gavin Tye:

Yeah. Think you just concentrate on giving a great experience for the, attendees and then we'll figure everything else out later.

Mitchell Davis:

Yeah. Yeah. Sounds good. Cool. Alright.

Mitchell Davis:

Well, that's me. What about you? Apart from this trail run, what do you got going on?

Gavin Tye:

I've got oh, my mate Dean, who you met other week, he's coming up here this weekend. So, good to hang out

Mitchell Davis:

with him.

Gavin Tye:

Haven't seen him since

Mitchell Davis:

Chat to Dean.

Gavin Tye:

Yeah. Dean. Then I'm just gonna set up this lead gen, like the newsletter, get some people put in there, actually, and then start, set up the webinar series, but then I think I'll, I will do the community community builders or something like that. The community leaders podcast, something like that. And yeah.

Gavin Tye:

Use that as a bit of a differentiator. Alright.

Mitchell Davis:

Awesome. Okay. Well, we'll we'll chat about that next week. Just you and me, I mean. We'll chat about that and getting you set up for that.

Mitchell Davis:

Awesome. Cool. Sounds good, mate. Good stuff. Alright.

Mitchell Davis:

Well, hope you everybody listening has a good weekend and a long weekend if you're in one of those lucky states. It is daylight savings time kicks off this Sunday, which is a bummer for us because you and I are on different sides of it. So now we gotta go back to the whose meeting time is this, rigamarole that we've gotta do. So that's a shame, but, that's alright. And, what else?

Mitchell Davis:

How do we finish this? Where can people find you online?

Gavin Tye:

Yeah. On LinkedIn. LinkedIn. Gavin Ty. Yep.

Gavin Tye:

Gavin Ty, t y e. Don't forget it.

Mitchell Davis:

And He's a big deal.

Gavin Tye:

A bloody big deal, mate. I'm here to tell you. Yep. Oh my god. There's also, like, I think by the time I have this email, this newsletter set up, we'll have a link in the description for people if they're interested, sign up for the newsletter or don't.

Gavin Tye:

Perfect. Whatever.

Mitchell Davis:

No. Sign up for it.

Gavin Tye:

Yep.

Mitchell Davis:

Do. Do. No. Don't.

Gavin Tye:

Do. Yeah. Yeah.

Mitchell Davis:

Alright. Awesome. You can find me, Mitch Dav in various places. We hope you

Gavin Tye:

have a good weekend. And well, hope you have a

Mitchell Davis:

good week. By the time this comes out, it's not a weekend anymore, is it? God, I have blown this outro. So just have a good day. Whatever day, time, whatever.

Mitchell Davis:

I don't care. Just have a good time.

Gavin Tye:

We will make the email for the for the newsletter journey at Six Side so it's not wasted, which currently is.

Mitchell Davis:

See how we go. Alright, everyone. We will catch you next week. Bye. See you later.